Rollamajig v brakes
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velomaniac
MacRetro Rider
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Yes, use them all the time. No static friction you sometimes get in the noodle especially if the plastic liner is degraded or missing. Particularly good for the rear brake as the route of that cable can add up the friction possibilities. Dare say many will claim no issues with the traditional noodle but I like these roller noodles a lot
Yes, use them all the time. No static friction you sometimes get in the noodle especially if the plastic liner is degraded or missing. Particularly good for the rear brake as the route of that cable can add up the friction possibilities. Dare say many will claim no issues with the traditional noodle but I like these roller noodles a lot
syncrosfan
Senior Retro Guru
I read on different forums about pros and cons of those, and the consensus was that yes, they do reduce friction, but they do increase cable wear in the roller area due to the smallish diameter of the roller putting more strain on the cable than the classic noodle (also they're heavier). They probably work fine if you don't mind changing your cables more often. The consensus was that the advantages aren't really enough to justify the roller system over the V-brake noodle but they work well enough that you could go safely either way. I would say why not give them a try... maybe you'll like them.
I used them on front, rear and rear mech (which, iirc, they were originally designed for) and had no problem with them at all. It's also easier to see if the lube is getting down the last bit of outer (where it's really needed) and there's "less" risk of getting dirt dragged into the noodle as well.
I have my own spin (but no experiance), on some of the comments / claims ...
• Less friction ? Even when the roller rubs on the horseshoe (or whatever it's called) as per the picture above ?
• Less chance of dirt getting in the cable - even when compared to a properly fitted rubber boot ? Just say the cable moves 10mm. With a rubber boot, even if it's doesnt form a good seal, it will drag mud 10mm in and then move it 10mm out again i.e. In a pefect world it will keep mud well away from the outer cable entrance. That roller above ? First blob of mud on the end of the outer cable will get pulled right in with the next brake application. If your rubber boots fitted like the picture above, then you can ignore this statement
Just some considerations from the way I see it
WD
• Less friction ? Even when the roller rubs on the horseshoe (or whatever it's called) as per the picture above ?
• Less chance of dirt getting in the cable - even when compared to a properly fitted rubber boot ? Just say the cable moves 10mm. With a rubber boot, even if it's doesnt form a good seal, it will drag mud 10mm in and then move it 10mm out again i.e. In a pefect world it will keep mud well away from the outer cable entrance. That roller above ? First blob of mud on the end of the outer cable will get pulled right in with the next brake application. If your rubber boots fitted like the picture above, then you can ignore this statement
Just some considerations from the way I see it
WD
Just been through my photos and found one that I had taken of 'boot' my set up :
They are avid noodles - I found them easier to bend (without kinking) than the shimano ones and the ferrules are better quality (now without logos).
The small cone seal is avid - that seals on the cable really well.
The convoluted rubber is shimano - that actually fits the avid noodle better than it fits on the shimano noodle.
The small cone seal can be fitted inside the shimano seal - the bottom one already has one inside where the double bellows are (there tricky to get in), once in it's a snug fit but doesn't stress the shimano rubber.
Assemble both onto the noodle and they seat really well and add a double seal that won't fall off or dislodge.
The shimano one will act as the splash guard keeping off the bulk, anything that creeps past that then has the nice tight avid seal to get past.
If you have rode long and hard enough with minimal maintenance and muds passed both seals - I reckon you will have bigger maintenance worries than a bit of crap in your brake cable
WD
They are avid noodles - I found them easier to bend (without kinking) than the shimano ones and the ferrules are better quality (now without logos).
The small cone seal is avid - that seals on the cable really well.
The convoluted rubber is shimano - that actually fits the avid noodle better than it fits on the shimano noodle.
The small cone seal can be fitted inside the shimano seal - the bottom one already has one inside where the double bellows are (there tricky to get in), once in it's a snug fit but doesn't stress the shimano rubber.
Assemble both onto the noodle and they seat really well and add a double seal that won't fall off or dislodge.
The shimano one will act as the splash guard keeping off the bulk, anything that creeps past that then has the nice tight avid seal to get past.
If you have rode long and hard enough with minimal maintenance and muds passed both seals - I reckon you will have bigger maintenance worries than a bit of crap in your brake cable
WD
