Rock Shox disc brake help needed

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hi all
does anyone know how to adjust 2000ish rock shox cable actuated hydraulic disc brakes? or have manuals/instructions they could scan?
the pads are too `tight' and rub on the disc. slight rolling resistance and squealing. these are totally foreign to me. have no idea and don't want to start jerking with them till i get some info.
thanks for any help in advance.
roy
 
lifted from a post i found on mtbr forums (i'm having clearance issues with my old hydro hopes):

These brakes get a lot of negative reviews, probably because they're old skool and require a bit of old skool knowledge. I worked on the AMP D1 discs on our race team in 1999 and got the hot set-up back then. I knew what to expect and how to fit these RockShox disc brakes before I bought them.

I fitted the front caliper and mount to the rear (yes, rear) of my bike by cutting 4mm off the caliper carrier mount with the dremel tool. I then fitted the 145mm dia rear disc onto the standard 6 bolt disc hub (used only three holes of course). The front caliper was fitted to my AMP forks. I ordered a caliper bracket from Brion at AMP Research for my 165mm AMP disc (fitted to my AMP front hub) and it works perfectly.

For players fitting the kit to their standard bikes, you'll need to buy two RockShox disc brake kits (at $38 it's as cheap as a second set of pads). Ditch the funky caliper from the rear caliper as it needs a special hub. Use the front ones on both ends. The problem with fitting comes from the fact that the disc rotors have very little clearance between the disc and the spokes. Hayes etc won't fit in there. The early days of discs used standard spacing hub flanges and the inboard side of the caliper was much slimmer. So, to fit these on your standard IS mount disc brake ready bike with your standard disc wheels, you have to mill or cut 4mm (measure first) off the caliper carrier.

Next, because the calipers are floating on sliding mounts (this is a good thing, self centering) you need to have fairly straight cable routing above the caliper. If you cable tie the cable to the fork, make sure you have about 10" running directly vertical from the caliper. This will ensure that there's no sideways pressure causing the caliper to slide on it's sliders and rub on the disc. Same at the rear.

Use special cable outers that don't allow compression. Use the best cables that you can afford and find an old bike mechanic who knows a few of the old tricks.

Maintain them by undoing that small screw on the slider pin and cleaning the slider pins regularly. The secret to their performance is their ability to find center and apply even pressure along a longer swept area. This means they need to slide freely.

Rotors. These are punched out of a sheet and the rears have a sharp side like a cheese grater. The front has sharp edges like a wood planer. This eats away the first two sets of pads and will drive you nuts. Get out the dremel tool and gently chamfer the sharp edges wherever the pad contacts the rotor. Go easy and try not to bend the rotor. This will help the pads last as long as Hayes. EBC make harder (gold) pads, but they're a bit harsh on rotors.

Levers, follow the instructions and use the canti setting on V levers, or better yet, get a set of Shimano 440 flat bar levers for road bikes. They have the correct leverage for these brakes.

They're not as good or as easy to fit as a set of Hayes dual piston or Avid juicys, so maybe, if you don't have a dremel (you should get one anyway), you would be better off with the popular new brands.
 
hi
all responses appreciated. thanks bren, that info seems more on how to mount them than adjustment. mine are installed. just need tweeking. ishaw, if you have a manual i would greatly appreciate some scans or we can pm and possibly photo copy the manual and mail it to me. than's old school isn't it? :D
here's a picture of brakes in question for reference. M_T_S are they similar to amp brakes?
thanks
roy
 

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They're sweet. I've never actually seen a set though, I always thought that Amp/Rockshox disks were the same?

The pads are the same! :oops:

Sorry I can't help more. PM Brion at Amp, I'm sure he'd be able to tell you.
 
hi
i thought they looked pretty nice myself. those are white industries hubs for rock shox dics too. and the caliper mounts on the fork were done by a professional. so they shouldn't experience all the pitfalls bren mentioned in his addition here.
roy
 
Haven't seen a set of these for a while, I had a front one of these fitted as standard on a GT STS around 98/99 which used that hub too! I found they only worked if used with a brake lever such as an lx or xt that allows you to play with the cable pull
Those White Industries hubs on the other hand are amazing although 3 bolt discs were hard to then let alone now!
 
I've got both styles of these, the AMP ones are fitted to my AMP (obviously) and the Rock Shox are waiting to be fitted to another project. I've run these for a few years now without too much bother.

The Rock Shox disc was a variation of the AMP one, it has a bigger compensator piston and "fins" to help keep it cool, but are more or less the same item. I've got the manual for the Rock Shox ones i'll get it scanned and posted up.

They do suffer a little bit from drag due to the design, but it's something you don't really notice once out and about, it might be that you need to reset the pistons, if you follow the guide on AMP's website it's quite straight forward http://www.amp-research.com/company/his ... ain-bikes/ . From experience if they start to squeal in use it's a good idea to change the pads as they are probably either contaminated or past their best.
 
Oh, and 3 bolt discs aren't that hard to get, i have them on file and can laser cut them to order.
 
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