rBoTM March 2014 - Vote now!!!

[Ian Raleigh]

Don't know. Can't move.

I can only offer advice on this one but I suggest you tell the missus to get off you! :facepalm:

 

[bagpuss]

Re:

another nice selection of bikes this month . Interesting cross section . enjoyed all the pictures .Well done to all .

 

[bugloss]

Don't know. Can't move.

I can only offer advice on this one but I suggest you tell the missus to get off you! :facepalm:

Thanks for clearing that one up. I was wondering what was going on at THM Towers.

 

[The History Man]

Don't know. Can't move.

I can only offer advice on this one but I suggest you tell the missus to get off you! :facepalm:

Thanks for clearing that one up. I was wondering what was going on at THM Towers.

The towers fell victim to the reformation.

 

[roadking]

Re: No tat policy.

but let's have more quality hand made British steel with a back story and no more auction purchases or, I wanted one of these when I was 12, grey porridge.

I'm sorry mate but that is utter crap! So all the guys on RB who have lovely bikes but because their frames are made of
501 have no chance of winning and because of your thoughts they will not enter because they have a nice but sub standard bike.

I like to hear of 'grey porridge' stories by the way! It shows you what love people had for a bike but couldn't have them because families was much poorer than others.

Answer this, why is my point about quality, history and provenance"utter crap"?

Notwithstanding that, I have a bicycle made from 501, and I did enter it at one point (I think October 2011). But I do not enter any of my bicycles, because of this coterie (e.g gang) of inverted snobs - after all, how many of you on this thread have any of interest in a 1908 Centaur ?

While admitting to admiration for the dedication of those who restore this grey porridge (e.g Raleigh Quasers and their ilk) they dreamt about when they were teenagers - they do not interest me.

Why I should be subject to your offensive remarks for holding my opinion is beyond me; your opinion is no more valid than mine.

Jon.

 

[bagpuss]

Re: No tat policy.

- after all, how many of you on this thread have any of interest in a 1908 Centaur ?

I for one would love to see pictures of this machine . It makes my 1935 Sunbeam GRR seem modern date wise .

Out of interest when should the vintage / retro be applied . I think pre 1965 is vintage and later is retro ?

 

[bugloss]

I was just wondering Roadking whether your 1908 Centaur has been in your family since 1908 or is it a recent auction purchase and can you post an actual photograph of it, so we can see it perhaps?

 

[roadking]

Re:

I try to show bicycles that I feel should be of interest, I tried this with my 1920s Selbach - a very innovative builder, this machine is about to appear in a book.

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There is always a problem with terms like vintage (often discussed in the pages of the V-CC - Veteran Cycle Club - magazine); when applied to cars it means one built before 1930. Retro is a term applied to a product (usually a product) that pays some kind of"homage"to a previous product or age but with a modern interpretation - cars again, e.g Rover 75, BMW's Mini.

An example of a retro bicycle would be the Pashley Guv'nor. I'd suggest a steel bicycle made after 1945 is a classic - even"grey porridge": which is a term first used by the VMCC (Vintage Motorcyle Club) to describe a motorcycle like a BSA Bantam, or a C15.

Although strictly speaking, many feel the Classic era ended with the death of Tullio Campagnolo. I suggest, for many reasons, the classic era ended with the 1989 Tour de France.

Jon.

 

[roadking]

I was just wondering Roadking whether your 1908 Centaur has been in your family since 1908 or is it a recent auction purchase and can you post an actual photograph of it, so we can see it perhaps?

Dear Bugloss,

sarcasm is so amusing. Whilst I can trace my family's cycling heritage back to before 1900 (picture deleted due to continuing sarcasm of the RB coterie), I regret I cannot claim to have had the Centaur Featherweight since 1908.

The oldest family owned from new bicycle (in a modest collection of quality English bicycles) is a 1951 Hobbs of Barbican. If I thought there were enough genuine interest (other than some petulant need on your part for me to prove I have it) I would happily post an image of the Centaur.

The Centaur will be taking part in a V-CC ride in August in commemoration of an event related to The Great War.

In fact I'd happily enter it for RBoTM; and for the record I have not, to date, purchased a bicycle at auction.

Rk.

 

[bugloss]

You've clearly misunderstood my post. I'd like to see it, but due to your superior attitude I've now lost interest.

You really are a horrid snob Roadking.