Prison? Young lad due?

[Pyro Tim]

Weed is a f*cking awful drug, I used to smoke enough of it to know. Totally robs you of any motivation and turns days into months into years very easily. Along with the loss of memory, mood swings, and ability to turn a problem in reality into a memory after a few puffs, it really is a shitty friend to have!

And people say it's harmless! Personally I rank it higher than coke, smack or anything else as a problem. So many kids smoke it these days it's frightening. If you have problems, you need to face them straight, weed just delays the inevitable.

Keep trying with him mate, at some point you will make a difference, you may already be doing that.

I'd disagree with that, and I've smoked it most of my adult life. Much less so recently granted, but it's never stopped me doing what I want. I've never had memory lapses, or mood swings. I bought my first property at 24, have always had a good job, and done well at it.

I'd agree that it affect people differently, but you can't blame it. I also don't like the modern green, because it's too strong. I'd be more inclined to blame the user for all the negative affects.

 

[rosstheboss]

You're right Tim, it does depend on the user, and also how strong it is now. I remember being able to smoke a joint and go out and do stuff, now its much harder to moderate as it is so mongy. Self control does seem to be a problem in the OP.

 

[Alison]

This is a really sad story and it sounds as if he has really relied on you in the past to sort him out, but he is in a circle he can't get out of? You've been there for him but he stills keeps going back to his old ways anyway?

Perhaps, unfortunately, it is no longer your problem, however much you want to help him, it's the old chestnut, he has to want to change himself? I couldn't agree more with what DynaTi says, and fantastic for him that he broke the cycle (so to speak!)

Having experience of an ex that smoked weed, I went on for ages thinking it was me that had a problem with wanting him not to do it any more. Everyone was like, for god's sake get over it, it's only a bit of pot, what's your problem? But it really truly did wreck my life and his, as he won't stop, if I hadn't got out I would have been on the downward spiral with him....

Perhaps prison will give him a trade, a short sharp shock, and most importantly break the habit??

My hubby used to smoke dope, this is more than 20 years ago, he was paranoid to the extreme, he couldn't go anywhere, couldn't do anything was as useless as a chocolate fire guard to be honest, he stopped when his house-mate suggested he go with him on a bike ride, big one for the weekend, my husband, not husband at the time, went along and didn't smoke anything because his house-mate was dead against it, so he went from complete paranoid dope head to a fit and health cyclist, then he was worth marrying. I could not have coped with living with him in the state he was.

Alison

 

[LikeClockwork]

I know this is slightly going off the point of Daz's original post, but then again maybe not....but it is good to know it wasn't just me, at the time I really thought this guy was the one and I stuck with him for far longer than I should have, but thinking back, he was paranoid, wouldn't go anywhere, spent most of his time on another planet, and was extremely selfish.

I also accept completely what others have said, that it depends on the individual and the strength of the stuff they're using, and the issues they may already have. However, I wrongly thought for a long time that that is was pretty harmless generally speaking, and was shocked when I googled the possible side effects. I left that night, with a bin bag full of my things, while he slept off a bender he had had due to having been up at summer solstice at Stonehenge and then come home and drunk a bottle of wine to himself. He had driven up there too, after a day on the stuff, saying it wasn't like drink driving... :?

 

[videojetman]

Weed is a f*cking awful drug, I used to smoke enough of it to know. Totally robs you of any motivation and turns days into months into years very easily. Along with the loss of memory, mood swings, and ability to turn a problem in reality into a memory after a few puffs, it really is a shitty friend to have!

And people say it's harmless! Personally I rank it higher than coke, smack or anything else as a problem. So many kids smoke it these days it's frightening. If you have problems, you need to face them straight, weed just delays the inevitable.

I couldn't agree more.
The best drug is the one produced by a killer bike ride.
I see too many young people wasting their lives on weed & other substances.

 

[wookiee]

...about the weed thing...it really is about the individual as Tim says...I smoked it daily or 20 odd years and have a good job, house, wife and kids etc. I now only smoke it on a rare occasion but still enjoy a beer on a regular basis! But I have also seen casualties along the way, people who cant take it and loose their minds. Its like anything, we all know the guy that turns into a dick when he is pissed, or gets too aggressive etc. Its the same with weed. It is a bit of a Russian roulette as to how it will effect you.

Ultimately the problem is why...if you get pissed or stoned to escape your issues, its not going to help your situation, just prolong the agony. Drugs and alcohol used in moderation isn't always a bad thing. Without it we would never have had the Beatles "Sgt Peppers" or many art or music offerings. To me it sounds like the lad you are trying to help has more deeper issues than drugs... and maybe he needs to hit rock bottom to come back....If he wont listen then sometimes people have to learn the hard way, trust me I have many times!

 

[Bpool77]

Weed = calm, drink = total tool who will ruin everything in my vicinity with in hours? ..... I'm not a good drinker.

The said lad is now in jail :cry: got arrested the other day he was due it but poor fooooker, Xmas in jail is shite he's gona get 2yr+ but as they say you play the game...... After he gets sentenced I'm thinking of a sort of flash mob " get your shite together " letter send, post card sent wake up for him? As I'm sure if I got a 1000+ random letters through my door I would ov changed a lot sooner? He's savable, I still revert to bell end mode now n then? But sort myself now.

Some good thoughts n influences on this thread.

 

[konatime]

http://allaboutfrogs.org/stories/scorpion.html

 

[Bats]

http://allaboutfrogs.org/stories/scorpion.html

This has given me an idea. I'm going to write a fairytale about how bus drivers steal your soul. I wonder how many muppets will take it as wisdom.


"You can make any old shite sound profound, when attributing it to a famous person." - Joe Bloggs.

 

[kenaltobelli]

bit of a butt in here;but on topic
going to be real interesting in the future they have legalized drugs
in some south american country seen it on the news or read it'
in a few years will have a better idea just what drugs do'
but then again come to hartlepool and see tell you this for nowt
its like walking around on mars and you can tell who smokes weed
by thier behaviour :cry:
the drugs dont work ;never been a truer saying