Playing the long game
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Nader":202plomd said:in other words, the youth of today are in 10 years the enthusiasts of bikes from late '90s / early 2000s!
The question is, which modern bike or bike part from today could be vintage in 10 years? (I would retain such a thing in my attic
I think this is bang on. if someone had bought & put aside all the xt thumbies they could when everyone migrated to trigger shifters in the early 90's they would be sitting on a gold mine. likewise with a stash of mint m900, nice cranks (cook, middleburn, RF turbines etc) slanted syncros top caps, srp / x-lite ano bolts & such like.
so, what are todays equivalents to tempt those who will be stuck in the past a short time down the line? would modern fox / rock shox / manitous ever reach the same level of desireability as old pace, RS judy's & such like? is sram XX or modern XTR going to be a worthwhile investment for 15 years time? What is todays equivalent of a brake booster, ringle h2o or skinwall tire?
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I think the comment about the newer stuff appealing to a younger audience is spot on
If you are into the investment side of things then its a case of not riding and enjoying it...not for me I enjoy the fact that it has survived intact just for me to enjoy and ride it. Although the builds I have done so far are uneconomic and were done to ride and enjoy.
I collect sixties Corgi cars and the parallel here iis that the fact they have survived for me to display and enjoy means ..perversely that they were never played with :cry:
I have invested in all the seventies F1 series cars as they were cheap to buy six years ago and they are an investment hopefully
If you are into the investment side of things then its a case of not riding and enjoying it...not for me I enjoy the fact that it has survived intact just for me to enjoy and ride it. Although the builds I have done so far are uneconomic and were done to ride and enjoy.
I collect sixties Corgi cars and the parallel here iis that the fact they have survived for me to display and enjoy means ..perversely that they were never played with :cry:
I have invested in all the seventies F1 series cars as they were cheap to buy six years ago and they are an investment hopefully
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Just a few things that I'm thinking about.
Whyte PRST-4.
It's a radical design. Not just the looks of the thing, but the fact that it's a proper monocoque as opposed to a bunch of tubes that are welded together. There's also the racing pedigree thanks to Jon Whyte's link to F1 suspension design.
Acros A-GE shifters.
They're rare and expensive now, but also a lot lighter than anything else out there.
Unfortunately they require modifications to the frame and aren't installed by default on any bike I know of.
Then again, those things didn't stop the Shimano Airlines kit from being hugely expensive nowadays.
First generation RS Reba (2005-200
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Just about the best suspension fork you can get if you have a bike that uses V-brakes. Modern forks may be getting better, but they don't have canti mounts anymore. The paint on them isn't too good, so good ones will be rare and in demand in 10 years time.
With regards to XTR, any modern XTR set will be worth something in 10 or more years if it's NOS. However a current XTR set is quite expensive already, so I have my doubts regarding the profit margin.
Also, an M980 is nowhere near as durable as old versions. The cassette will rarely last more than 2000 miles, even if you have 3 chains and rotate them every few hundred miles to save the cassette. An M900 or 950 cassette and chain will last tens of thousands of miles if maintained properly.
I really doubt people will want to spend huge amounts of money on a early '10s XTR set that wears out this quickly.
Then again they're spending that kind of money on them now, so you never know.
Whyte PRST-4.
It's a radical design. Not just the looks of the thing, but the fact that it's a proper monocoque as opposed to a bunch of tubes that are welded together. There's also the racing pedigree thanks to Jon Whyte's link to F1 suspension design.
Acros A-GE shifters.
They're rare and expensive now, but also a lot lighter than anything else out there.
Unfortunately they require modifications to the frame and aren't installed by default on any bike I know of.
Then again, those things didn't stop the Shimano Airlines kit from being hugely expensive nowadays.
First generation RS Reba (2005-200
. Just about the best suspension fork you can get if you have a bike that uses V-brakes. Modern forks may be getting better, but they don't have canti mounts anymore. The paint on them isn't too good, so good ones will be rare and in demand in 10 years time.
With regards to XTR, any modern XTR set will be worth something in 10 or more years if it's NOS. However a current XTR set is quite expensive already, so I have my doubts regarding the profit margin.
Also, an M980 is nowhere near as durable as old versions. The cassette will rarely last more than 2000 miles, even if you have 3 chains and rotate them every few hundred miles to save the cassette. An M900 or 950 cassette and chain will last tens of thousands of miles if maintained properly.
I really doubt people will want to spend huge amounts of money on a early '10s XTR set that wears out this quickly.
Then again they're spending that kind of money on them now, so you never know.
legrandefromage":24vpr1u1 said:
I've got a few NOS things which have been stashed away because they haven't really had the right build to be put on anything and that could still be the case in 20 years time too. I know some stuff has gone up in value but this is a hobby not a money making exercise.
I have a reasonable number of old bikes to rotate through so that should also see some lasting a very long time even with use so if the time ever comes to sell they shouldn't look much worse than they do right now either.
NAILTRAIL96
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Not worth it, In 10 years time the retro cut off will still be 97 .
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