Orange Formula for sale

[sinnerman]

Re:

4 years ago, this bike was mentioned to me by Rodger Tushingham, and it was discussed as a Formula bike . the owner a personal friend of both Rodger and Lester described the bike as a clockwork. The seller here describes it as a Prestige,

The truth is , its the pre-cursor to all of them to my mind, and is all three. Its the Formula for things to come at Orange, it uses Tange Prestige tubes and is in the Race livery of the Clockwork before the production Clockwork frames were sourced from the far east.

It was built by Dave Yates (TWG). Whilst as pointed out by Mark it uses the fast back seat stays like the later Yates Diablo, it is still Lugged, Handbuilt in Great Britain and uses a Lugged Unicrown fork and the Signature X-Brace seatstays combined with the fast back stays -(less like the diablo and more like the Yates/TWG handbuilt Tushingham Works replica and the later Formula.) The nice part about this is the frame is the geometry shares more with the Production Clockwork than the Handbuilt Formula or Tushingham works Replica.

P.S Mark I'm flattered you have read my previous posts and used all my pics posted. (my effort wasn't all wasted at least).

you are right any Neon will fade. (unless its kept out of Constant sunlight like the "Frontera" pic you posted-which also shares a lineage)

I thought it four years ago and I still stand by those thoughts today, its too good for a rattle can paint job in the shed, and costly to do it very well........ But that's just my romantic retro love rearing its head again.

 

[Cheshire1980]

Re: Re:

4 years ago, this bike was mentioned to me by Rodger Tushingham, and it was discussed as a Formula bike . the owner a personal friend of both Rodger and Lester described the bike as a clockwork. The seller here describes it as a Prestige,

The truth is , its the pre-cursor to all of them to my mind, and is all three. Its the Formula for things to come at Orange, it uses Tange Prestige tubes and is in the Race livery of the Clockwork before the production Clockwork frames were sourced from the far east.

It was built by Dave Yates (TWG). Whilst as pointed out by Mark it uses the fast back seat stays like the later Yates Diablo, it is still Lugged, Handbuilt in Great Britain and uses a Lugged Unicrown fork and the Signature X-Brace seatstays combined with the fast back stays -(less like the diablo and more like the Yates/TWG handbuilt Tushingham Works replica and the later Formula.) The nice part about this is the frame is the geometry shares more with the Production Clockwork than the Handbuilt Formula or Tushingham works Replica.

P.S Mark I'm flattered you have read my previous posts and used all my pics posted. (my effort wasn't all wasted at least).

you are right any Neon will fade. (unless its kept out of Constant sunlight like the "Frontera" pic you posted-which also shares a lineage)

I thought it four years ago and I still stand by those thoughts today, its too good for a rattle can paint job in the shed, and costly to do it very well........ But that's just my romantic retro love rearing its head again.

Fascinating stuff... can certainly see its significance...

 

[Cheshire1980]

Re: Re:

4 years ago, this bike was mentioned to me by Rodger Tushingham, and it was discussed as a Formula bike . the owner a personal friend of both Rodger and Lester described the bike as a clockwork. The seller here describes it as a Prestige,

The truth is , its the pre-cursor to all of them to my mind, and is all three. Its the Formula for things to come at Orange, it uses Tange Prestige tubes and is in the Race livery of the Clockwork before the production Clockwork frames were sourced from the far east.

It was built by Dave Yates (TWG). Whilst as pointed out by Mark it uses the fast back seat stays like the later Yates Diablo, it is still Lugged, Handbuilt in Great Britain and uses a Lugged Unicrown fork and the Signature X-Brace seatstays combined with the fast back stays -(less like the diablo and more like the Yates/TWG handbuilt Tushingham Works replica and the later Formula.) The nice part about this is the frame is the geometry shares more with the Production Clockwork than the Handbuilt Formula or Tushingham works Replica.

P.S Mark I'm flattered you have read my previous posts and used all my pics posted. (my effort wasn't all wasted at least).

you are right any Neon will fade. (unless its kept out of Constant sunlight like the "Frontera" pic you posted-which also shares a lineage)

I thought it four years ago and I still stand by those thoughts today, its too good for a rattle can paint job in the shed, and costly to do it very well........ But that's just my romantic retro love rearing its head again.

Fascinating stuff... can certainly see its significance...

 

[sinnerman]

Re: Very early orange prestige

Mark, its nice you have taken the time to repost so many pics. It really demonstrates what was going on here in the UK at the time.

If you look at it as a whole, you can see the Mountain bike Coming of age and a massive world wide commercial success story.

Your posts of my pictures all posted here together really does show how so many Companies From independent shops/Sailing companies and (then) New brand names all wanting to source and provide a Mountain bike model and range of bikes to cash in on this massive new Craze sweeping the world.

Look how many used the Frame builders of TWG, before outsourcing to the far east.

For me it does demonstrate the Overburys story quite well too. An awful lot of Emphasis was placed on the Quality of a Handbuilt British bicycle back then, much in the same way as consumers regarded the bike had to be better if it was Handbuilt in the U.S.A.

The nice part of this story is Orange.

To remain competitive they outsourced to the far east after doing there homework here. In later years when the market allowed for it they became for the majority...Homegrown.

A British bicycle Success Story. And even now they haven't sold out to the corporate giants, they have attempted to keep it in the family. (I wish Ashley Ball Every success).

it kinda takes me back to my first post on this thread.

"...Orange are the Last of a special Era, and this is as close as it gets to that Era's beginning...!!!"

 

[Stick Legs]

Re: Very early orange prestige

Can someone explain what TWG stands for please.
Tyne & Wear Group?
Tushingham Water Groupies?
The Way to Greatness?

 

[legrandefromage]

Re: Very early orange prestige

Tit Wank Girls.

 

[mynchiboy]

Re:

Two Wheels Good

 

[sinnerman]

Re: Very early orange prestige

Tit Wank Girls.

 

[Stick Legs]

Re: Very early orange prestige

Thank you!

 

[brocklanders023]

Re: Very early orange prestige

The Original Spec was a Mix of Suntour and Shimano. The difficulty here is the frame refurb. Acquiring the correct neon paint isn't easy or cheap, the standard Orange decals are easy enough, but as mentioned above, replicating the original black decals again wont be easy or cheap.

My worry is what lies underneath the paint and inside the tubes. Without tube replacement its £500 frame and fork refurb imho. If it needs tubes (as mentioned in PM, the skys the limit).

This is one of those bikes that needs a careful hand. If its gone at like a "bull in a china shop", its ruined before its started.

Its a British built frame for Orange, decal placement/position, depth of fade, Neon paint...., to keep it right this needs to be taken into consideration in my honest opinion.

Its a Survivor that's done a good job, the question I guess is how best to save it.

Agree 100%. This deserves to be done properly and with lots love. It deserves to become a standout bike on the forum like a handful of others.