Orange bike - just bought but what is it?

[plums]

I have just bought an Orange mountain bike 2nd hand.
All I know is that this is a good make and it is fairly old. Some of the parts are original but I suspect the forks and wheels aren't.
A friend reckons it might be an early Orange Gringo.
Here's some pics. Can anyone shed any light on the vintage and value of this?
Cheers.

 

[JeRkY]

If it is an Orange, it will be way earlier than the gringo.

 

[plums]

If it is an Orange, it will be way earlier than the gringo.

The stickers are Orange and they look original. Any other way of knowing?

 

[plums]

some more pics of the frame - number is A7N14895

 

[Carge]

Rear dropouts look like the ones on an O2, but...
It's not got the Orange mono-stay, and...
Rear mech cabling routing is wrong for an O2, and....
Don't think Orange did chainstays like those on anything, certainly not the O2, and...
Did Orange use 7003 Aluminium? Not like any Orange frame tubing sticker I've seen. The O2 & Gringo both used 7005 tubing.

 

[Jussa]

Not sure it's Orange, There is a similar thread on here with a similar Frame, for some reason 'Raleigh' keeps popping into my head??? some more digging required.

Sorry Cant Help More.

 

[jonnyboy666]

sorry, defo not an Orange, too many differences on the frame, mainly the rear end, the drop outs, the chainstay section behind the b/b, the welding isn't typical of theirs either.

 

[plums]

Did Orange use 7003 Aluminium? Not like any Orange frame tubing sticker I've seen. The O2 & Gringo both used 7005 tubing.

It is 7005 - just cuts off the right bit on the photo.
Ah well, I only paid £30 for it...

 

[Carge]

Looks like a 3 to me

 

[kase1983]

not an orange at all.

just a generic frame with orange decals.

but for £30 you got cheapo pub bike!