NOS retro steel Saracen frames

[cherrybomb]

Guy on ebay has put up some nice Saracen frames with the pierced top tube again.

He's got 17" & 19" listed.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....170302197292&_sacat=See-All-Categories&_fvi=1

 

[W W Biffta]

i thought i wanted the pierced tube one, but im going off it now. anyone got any idea which are better? or same range different year? man they that cheap probably should just get both.
when i last talked to him he had 15" too.

 

[drystonepaul]

This guy should really put up some better pictures, because these look alot nicer in real life.
I got one of each of these, both listed as 19" but measure up at 18" centre to centre. The one with the pierced top tube looks like the Sahara, has a noodle brazed onto the top tube cable stops for a rear canti and weighs about 2.6kg, and the other one looks like a Pro-trax and weighs in at about 2.1kgs.
Good condition, nice tidy welds, but a really thin black spray over.
I'll be getting them powdercoated and built up as a hack bike and a singlespeed respectively.
Other things to consider include:
The heavier Sahara one takes a 26.4mm seatpost and has a 73mm BB shell.
The Pro-trax frame takes a 27.0mm post and has a 68mm BB shell.

I ended up getting two for the price of one after they sent out the wrong type of frame which was also damaged by Parcel-Force.
Basically I had ordered the lighter Protrax style frame but they sent the other one.
Emailed the seller, he apologised profusely and sent out the correct frame and told me to keep the first one as it wasn't really worth him having it back. I've staightened out the bent gear hanger and might get the small dent in the top tube filled before it goes to the powder coaters.

Worth it for a cheap frame (or two!)