Mountain Cycle San Andreas 1st gen 1992
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Beautiful!
I'd agree that those are the second Gen forks, But your main frame is an odd mix... I beleive that you have a very early front box section (no bottle bosses on the top) and a later swingarm (the pivot clamp is different on the very first models)
Mine is a 93 (94 model year) so I'd guess at yours being either a 92 or more likely, a 93 model year bike.
Check out risse who still sell shocks for these - mucho improvement!
I'd agree that those are the second Gen forks, But your main frame is an odd mix... I beleive that you have a very early front box section (no bottle bosses on the top) and a later swingarm (the pivot clamp is different on the very first models)
Mine is a 93 (94 model year) so I'd guess at yours being either a 92 or more likely, a 93 model year bike.
Check out risse who still sell shocks for these - mucho improvement!
Loungekabouter
Retro Guru
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First of all, what an amazing find. Lucky you !
I've always liked that suspenders forks and fortunately I can call this one my own
But I have to agree that it looks way better on a San Andreas
Cheers
Jeroen
First of all, what an amazing find. Lucky you !
I've always liked that suspenders forks and fortunately I can call this one my own
But I have to agree that it looks way better on a San Andreas
Cheers
Jeroen
Osella
Senior Retro Guru
Re: Shocking project,... Not a Trek
San Andreas is not a URT! It's a single-pivot design; but the BB is definitely not attached to the rear dropouts (the 'U' of the Unified Rear Triangle).
Single-pivot is called outdated too; but Orange and Santa Cruz don't seem to mind
San Andreas frames are just incredible to ride; with an air shock they climb like a hardtail even with those original old shocks, spent a fun few hours out on mine last Sunday!
Defiant has a winner!
Thias":e58erpey said:
San Andreas is not a URT! It's a single-pivot design; but the BB is definitely not attached to the rear dropouts (the 'U' of the Unified Rear Triangle).
Single-pivot is called outdated too; but Orange and Santa Cruz don't seem to mind
San Andreas frames are just incredible to ride; with an air shock they climb like a hardtail even with those original old shocks, spent a fun few hours out on mine last Sunday!
Defiant has a winner!
Thanks guys for all the info! really appreciated
For some reason I have always been a rigid diamond frame rider but with all the good reviews and enthusiastic and positive reactions form other owners I am curious about this bike so i will definitely give it a chance when I am finished with the rebuild.
So i guess i need to get a Risse rear sock and some new elastic's in the front ?
https://www.suspensionforkparts.net/esh ... h-kit.html
Which rear shock should i check out ?
For some reason I have always been a rigid diamond frame rider but with all the good reviews and enthusiastic and positive reactions form other owners I am curious about this bike so i will definitely give it a chance when I am finished with the rebuild.
So i guess i need to get a Risse rear sock and some new elastic's in the front ?
https://www.suspensionforkparts.net/esh ... h-kit.html
Which rear shock should i check out ?
Osella
Senior Retro Guru
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Risse Genesis Damper. 150mm e2e length.
No adjustment other than air pressure - I was very skeptical about that at first as I love being able to adjust rebound on the fly - but it simply doesn't need it.
Quite 'odd' bikes actually; but once you get used to what it does it's all very intuitive.
Sit back on the seat and lean back & the shock becomes plush & cushy on a descent. Get out of the saddle on a climb and the chain tension gives a little resistance to the shock.
Hit a bump when unweighted & it literally acts just as a shock absorber - like a good set of air forks.
Hit a bump when seated & the travel eats into a bit more, active plush suspension.
Climb seated & it just goes uphill - just have to lean forward as it's quite rear-weighted!
The stiffening up under load is not uncommon on full-sus; but it's noticeable.
The is one big disadvantage though; which is that it can make other bikes seem less...fun.. Even the ones I really like!
Risse Genesis Damper. 150mm e2e length.
No adjustment other than air pressure - I was very skeptical about that at first as I love being able to adjust rebound on the fly - but it simply doesn't need it.
Quite 'odd' bikes actually; but once you get used to what it does it's all very intuitive.
Sit back on the seat and lean back & the shock becomes plush & cushy on a descent. Get out of the saddle on a climb and the chain tension gives a little resistance to the shock.
Hit a bump when unweighted & it literally acts just as a shock absorber - like a good set of air forks.
Hit a bump when seated & the travel eats into a bit more, active plush suspension.
Climb seated & it just goes uphill - just have to lean forward as it's quite rear-weighted!
The stiffening up under load is not uncommon on full-sus; but it's noticeable.
The is one big disadvantage though; which is that it can make other bikes seem less...fun.. Even the ones I really like!
Took the bike apart today.
Started stripping the fork and was totally surprised that the red anno color came back, without hardly any damages for the part that i have done so far.
I think I am quit lucky with this example
All parts : Front Mech, Rear Mech, Cranks, BB,.. all M900 and in a perfect condition. No signs of heavy use anywhere.
Even the Elastomers look like the have been installed yesterday ,.. still soft and like new.
So within a few days I will start stripping the paint. For now the paintstripper seems to work just fine on the fork.
Things I need
- Find period correct tires
- A red ringle rear skewer
- Syncros Stem 1 1/4" in Alu or Black
Started stripping the fork and was totally surprised that the red anno color came back, without hardly any damages for the part that i have done so far.
I think I am quit lucky with this example
All parts : Front Mech, Rear Mech, Cranks, BB,.. all M900 and in a perfect condition. No signs of heavy use anywhere.
Even the Elastomers look like the have been installed yesterday ,.. still soft and like new.
So within a few days I will start stripping the paint. For now the paintstripper seems to work just fine on the fork.
Things I need
- Find period correct tires
- A red ringle rear skewer
- Syncros Stem 1 1/4" in Alu or Black
Re: Shocking project,... Not a Trek
Well that definitely looks like it was cobbled together by someone at Caterpillar - Tea-Lady perhaps :facepalm:
Well that definitely looks like it was cobbled together by someone at Caterpillar - Tea-Lady perhaps :facepalm:
24pouces":2zb65slc said:In France, we got “Vario Bike“, a brand created by a Caterpillar ingeneer…RockiMtn":2zb65slc said:sorry, i couldn't resist!Defiant":2zb65slc said:LOL
and so, all the Vario bike were yellow ! :mrgreen:
Nice San Andreas with 2th generation Suspenders !
