Modified Manitou 1's

Re: More...

mrkawasaki":1d9ctf86 said:
Interesting, thanks for that - in terms of stanchion tubing 'hidden' within or below the top of the outer legs, is there more tubing (not elastomer or cartridge) in the M1 or the M4 set up - or is that the same too?

Mr K

I will work that one out when I get home.
The stanchions are exactly the same length as the M1 lowers, I know that because I had to insert them all the way in past the groove for the seals in order to put the seal and upper bushing in and it was only just possible. I had to make a tool for pulling the stanchion back out as there was nothing to get hold of.
I will take some measurements later and post up tonight.
 
Ok, I have taken a few dimensions and have the following facts, not factoids...
A standard Manitou 1 with steel stanchions has 170mm of engagement (the length of stanchion inserted into the leg)
A Manitou 4 with aluminium stanchions fitted with Englund Air Carts has 160mm of engagement.
these modded M1's have 120mm of engagement.
A standard M1 has a axle to crown length of 400mm, compared to 430mm for these modified ones.

So, maybe not an ideal amount of engagement to be honest, but I weigh almost 16st :shock: and havent managed to break them. Admittedly I have not used them very much, but I have bounced up and down on them quite a lot to check travel etc.

I could make them a bit safer by removing the 15mm spacer, shortening the air cartridge mounts by 15mm and then fitting stops to limit the travel to ~50mm. That should give 150mm of engagement and return the a-c length to 400mm.
 

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