Missy Giove arrested on pot charges

[PurpleFrog]

She should've retired to the Netherlands with their drug's policy...but it's probably too flat for a downhill biker!

These amounts are illegal even in the Netherlands
Personally I think all kind of drugs should be legal, just collect the taxes for some xtra heath care and get the criminals out of the scene..... but hey, I'm Dutch
just for the record I've NEVER used (or will use) any drugs apart from Coffee, Tea and my occasional Beer/Whisky :roll:

chances are criminals would still find their niche in the scene with underage users, and offering cheaper stuff, undercutting legitimate sellers.

Nope. Kids just don't enough money to spend to justify the legal risk, subverting governments, and building fleets of drug submarines. (Seriously - specially built semi-submersibles are now how a lot of coke gets from Columbia to US.)

As kicks go, marijuana is pretty harmless, as long as it hasn't been messed about with. I'd rather have to share a small space with a group of potheads than Special Brew drinkers. The worst thing seems to be that it can trigger mental illness in a very small group of vulnerable people, but even there alcohol seems to mess up more people worse.

 

[Iwasgoodonce]

Don't have this up loud if little ears are around but, let's see what the late, great Bill Hicks has to say on the subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSH6ofHb ... re=related

 

[ICB]

As kicks go, marijuana is pretty harmless, as long as it hasn't been messed about with. I'd rather have to share a small space with a group of potheads than Special Brew drinkers. The worst thing seems to be that it can trigger mental illness in a very small group of vulnerable people, but even there alcohol seems to mess up more people worse.

Was chatting to a friend who's a psychiatrist about this, he reckons the evidence is less than compelling and that there are lots of potentially muddying factors e.g. whether there's a correlation between those prone to mental illness and those drawn to drug use. Personally I think it's pretty clear that heavy drug use during adolescent development isn't going to do you much good though.

Undoubtedly true that cannabis is far less damaging to individuals and society as a whole than alcohol.

 

[ferrus]

It might have become a bit of a cliche, but I do think there's a big difference between domestically grown Skunk and the imported marijuana of the past. There's also some difference in the motives for getting stoned it seems, amongst teenagers; Skunk seems to be nearly all THC, with few other 'actives' and just gets you wasted,(-don't see too many adolescents these days 'really getting into' Brand X or Floyd! )
It's pretty horrible seeing young teenagers totally mashed, and as ICB says is obviously not going to do them any good, psycologically or physically. -At the very least it glues your arse to the sofa, when it should be on your bike!

-Much better to get high on life and a buzz from endorphins, I reckon.

 

[retrojon]

Was chatting to a friend who's a psychiatrist about this, he reckons the evidence is less than compelling and that there are lots of potentially muddying factors e.g. whether there's a correlation between those prone to mental illness and those drawn to drug use. Personally I think it's pretty clear that heavy drug use during adolescent development isn't going to do you much good though.

Undoubtedly true that cannabis is far less damaging to individuals and society as a whole than alcohol.

It all gets a bit chicken and egg.

What happens when you give skunk to animals?

I saw a documentary on youtube once where they gave spiders a variety of drugs. When it had a bit of weed it couldn't be bothered with a web and made a hammock instead.

 

[GoldenEraMTB]

She should've retired to the Netherlands with their drug's policy...but it's probably too flat for a downhill biker!

These amounts are illegal even in the Netherlands
Personally I think all kind of drugs should be legal, just collect the taxes for some xtra heath care and get the criminals out of the scene..... but hey, I'm Dutch
just for the record I've NEVER used (or will use) any drugs apart from Coffee, Tea and my occasional Beer/Whisky :roll:

chances are criminals would still find their niche in the scene with underage users, and offering cheaper stuff, undercutting legitimate sellers.

Nope. Kids just don't enough money to spend to justify the legal risk, subverting governments, and building fleets of drug submarines. (Seriously - specially built semi-submersibles are now how a lot of coke gets from Columbia to US.)

As kicks go, marijuana is pretty harmless, as long as it hasn't been messed about with. I'd rather have to share a small space with a group of potheads than Special Brew drinkers. The worst thing seems to be that it can trigger mental illness in a very small group of vulnerable people, but even there alcohol seems to mess up more people worse.

you telling me "nope", with that statement you just made there...I issue you a big "nope" as well. Did you read one article and decide it must be right. The data still isn't definitive on that correlation.

though I agree that I would rather share a room with potheads than drunks, unless the pot has been laced with something special...then it can get weird. Been there; done that...you dont want to know :shock:

 

[Tomahawk kid]

GoldenEraMTB wrote:
[/quote] unless the pot has been laced with something special...then it can get weird. Been there; done that...you dont want to know :shock:[/quote]


Wasn't there a craze in the US of lacing your Joints with Formaldehyde (embalming fluid)? :shock:

 

[GoldenEraMTB]

GoldenEraMTB wrote:

unless the pot has been laced with something special...then it can get weird. Been there; done that...you dont want to know :shock:[/quote]


Wasn't there a craze in the US of lacing your Joints with Formaldehyde (embalming fluid)? :shock:[/quote]

I heard something about that, but it was after my time in that crowd...I don't smoke anymore, and only drink moderately.

It's not so shocking if you consider the stuff that goes into meth or crack...sad really

 

[J i m s t e r]

I worked in Mental Health for a while and the ex-girlfriend was a drugs counsellor so was exposed to a fair bit of the spectrum.

Drug-induced psychosis is fairly-widespread, not limited to one specific cross section of the community. A lot of patients I came across, who I thought of as kids, were smoking weed regularly (daily) since about 10. It was what they were exposed to at home and it gave them "Street-cred". Peer pressure a common thread.

On a non-adult mind, it usually has a negative effect, ultimately leading to psychosis. Physically, it takes it toll to, as any substance smoked long-term would. Again, I stress these are not sly tokers at the party, but daily users.

Most of the weed they were using was not imported. According to my ex, the vast majority of it is grown here; the margins are small on weed and it's not worth the risk of importing it for pocket change. It's still distributed by criminals though, and that gets invested back into coke (which seems to be more and more socially acceptable), heroin and crack where the margins and risks are much bigger.

My own personal view is that regular recreational smokers were less afraid to try harder stuff. Regardless of any "Daily Mail" [shudder] scaremongering, I think that was the case when I was informed about it. Addicts made their choices depending on what was happening in their life, whether they wanted to "Supersize it" (Coke), blot out their sorrows (Herioin) or opt out of life completely (Crack). Given the bleakness of some of their domestic situations, you can see that these were easy traps to get into.

Abuse of drink is just as bad but I take this opportunity to crack the joke that criminals don't profit from this, only the government (rhum-cha!),
I like a drink but I seldom drink to excess (it doesn't help the wallet, health or me to get out of bed and ride in at 6:30AM) and I don't really do anything after a few beers that I wouldn't do sober.

As for Missy herself, I suspect a reason why she would find it harder to gain sponsorship and a career in bikes apart from pro-riding is the fact she is openly gay. It might not [puns]ride well/go down too well[/puns] with the marketing dept finding her "Image" appropriate for their product.

I mean, even Michael Owen can't get himself arrested at the moment!

 

[mtbfix]

They appear to have left 'underachiever' off Owen's list of attributes.