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KHS Softail £80 BIN
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yagamuffin
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John":2m98tp46 said:
Complete bike bought on eBay for £80.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/retro-vintage...0551949360?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item27b5b03830
Split and frame sold for £95.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Retro-KHS-Sof...keparts_SR&hash=item1c167dee3d#ht_1034wt_1139
Frame now being sole on for £80 again
Something fishy going on!
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yagamuffin":nrrryv0n said:
I'd probably agree.
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The guy who bought and split/sold the frame is a possibly a professional bike breaker (ebay member "12-28"). He always has retro stuff for sale and it crops up on here regularly such as the K2 Razorback he's selling now.
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weeman_mtb":1u2y685i said:
and uses a different name to buy them with sometimes, though 12-28 this time.
But the trail frame frame to current sale is all there in the feedback
but I forget which.
But gets the parts out to others.
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My take is that it is not against eBay rules to have multiple accounts.
I don't know what knowledge others have about this particular transaction but it seems plausible to me to bid and win on two items and then decide to get rid.
Is there a suggestion shill bidding was involved and it went wrong?
Perhaps I just don't mind people seeing buying and selling as a profit making endeavour.
As long as people don't defraud others.
I don't know what knowledge others have about this particular transaction but it seems plausible to me to bid and win on two items and then decide to get rid.
Is there a suggestion shill bidding was involved and it went wrong?
Perhaps I just don't mind people seeing buying and selling as a profit making endeavour.
As long as people don't defraud others.
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ITS THE TURN AROUND TIME FOR ME SEEMS TO QUICK, FRAME SOLD, THEN SHIPPED THEN RELISTED IN A MATTER OF DAYS, IF IT WAS A NON PAYING BIDDER HE DIDNT GIVE THEM MUCH TIME TO MAKE PAYMENT BEFORE RELISTING.
AND IF LISTED BY THE WINNING BIDDER, AGAIN IT SEEMS TOO QUICK
ALSO THE PICS ARE THE SAME TAKEN ON THE SAME FLOOR, SO LIKELY 12-28 AND THE CURRENT LISTING ARE THE SAME PERSON.
WHICH MAKES YOU THINK THE £95 SELLING PRICE COULD BE SHILL BIDDING GONE WRONG
AND IF LISTED BY THE WINNING BIDDER, AGAIN IT SEEMS TOO QUICK
ALSO THE PICS ARE THE SAME TAKEN ON THE SAME FLOOR, SO LIKELY 12-28 AND THE CURRENT LISTING ARE THE SAME PERSON.
WHICH MAKES YOU THINK THE £95 SELLING PRICE COULD BE SHILL BIDDING GONE WRONG
highlandsflyer
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Bike sold 14th October
14 days later...
Frame sold 28th October
5 days later...
Buyer leaves feedback 2nd November
"VERY FAST DELIVERY" (Indeed from a seller rated for fast delivery...)
Buyer, (who has been on ebay a long time with a reasonable amount of feedback), relists with the previous seller's pics. (Well we have all done that, haven't we?)
2nd November
The reason given is that he bid on two bikes and ended up winning both.
If you look at his bids, he indeed bid on a Kona Hei Hei on 26th October that he subsequently won on the basis of that bid, on 31st October.
Before he knew his bid of the 26th on the Kona was a winning bid, he bid again and won the KHS.
Bids for Kona... 26th October
Bids for KHS... 28th October
Wins the Kona on previous bid... 31st October
ONE bid, late in the day and wins the auction on the KHS, just pipping the current bids, not the way to shill bid folks.
It seems to be legit to me.
I don't see any impossibly fast turn around, nor any indication of shill bidding or similar.
It annoys some people to see bikes sold and resold, hacked about with and made a profit from, I get that.
However, don't let that notion prejudice your judgement.
I only bothered checking this out as I am interested in the KHS.
I hope the suggestions made on this thread won't put people off dealing with the seller who seems to be the subject of hasty impugnment.
Just my two cents.
14 days later...
Frame sold 28th October
5 days later...
Buyer leaves feedback 2nd November
"VERY FAST DELIVERY" (Indeed from a seller rated for fast delivery...)
Buyer, (who has been on ebay a long time with a reasonable amount of feedback), relists with the previous seller's pics. (Well we have all done that, haven't we?)
2nd November
The reason given is that he bid on two bikes and ended up winning both.
If you look at his bids, he indeed bid on a Kona Hei Hei on 26th October that he subsequently won on the basis of that bid, on 31st October.
Before he knew his bid of the 26th on the Kona was a winning bid, he bid again and won the KHS.
Bids for Kona... 26th October
Bids for KHS... 28th October
Wins the Kona on previous bid... 31st October
ONE bid, late in the day and wins the auction on the KHS, just pipping the current bids, not the way to shill bid folks.
It seems to be legit to me.
I don't see any impossibly fast turn around, nor any indication of shill bidding or similar.
It annoys some people to see bikes sold and resold, hacked about with and made a profit from, I get that.
However, don't let that notion prejudice your judgement.
I only bothered checking this out as I am interested in the KHS.
I hope the suggestions made on this thread won't put people off dealing with the seller who seems to be the subject of hasty impugnment.
Just my two cents.
yagamuffin
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highlandsflyer":2x6b7vj2 said:Bike sold 14th October
14 days later...
Frame sold 28th October
5 days later...
Buyer leaves feedback 2nd November
"VERY FAST DELIVERY" (Indeed from a seller rated for fast delivery...)
Buyer, (who has been on ebay a long time with a reasonable amount of feedback), relists with the previous seller's pics. (Well we have all done that, haven't we?)
2nd November
The reason given is that he bid on two bikes and ended up winning both.
If you look at his bids, he indeed bid on a Kona Hei Hei on 26th October that he subsequently won on the basis of that bid, on 31st October.
Before he knew his bid of the 26th on the Kona was a winning bid, he bid again and won the KHS.
Bids for Kona... 26th October
Bids for KHS... 28th October
Wins the Kona on previous bid... 31st October
ONE bid, late in the day and wins the auction on the KHS, just pipping the current bids, not the way to shill bid folks.
It seems to be legit to me.
I don't see any impossibly fast turn around, nor any indication of shill bidding or similar.
It annoys some people to see bikes sold and resold, hacked about with and made a profit from, I get that.
However, don't let that notion prejudice your judgement.
I only bothered checking this out as I am interested in the KHS.
I hope the suggestions made on this thread won't put people off dealing with the seller who seems to be the subject of hasty impugnment.
Just my two cents.
I think you're right.
To be honest, I think I'm just annoyed I didn't buy it for £80 to start with!
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just one other thing ( columbo voice) lol, your right, perhaps i was too hasty and cynical, i did not investigate, im just sick to death of that bloody frame tell you the truth 
that 12-28 fella does have some goos stuff and i check there regularly
that 12-28 fella does have some goos stuff and i check there regularly
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