Is it really worth it?

IWish":10otc0v1 said:
P.S. I spend 90% of my time looking for jobs. There's nothing out there for low grades. Or high grades as it goes. Why do you think youth unemployment is at it's highest?

I don't recall ever not getting a job because I didn't get good grades at school. No, when I didn't get jobs it was for one of three reasons:

a) the interviewer genuinely thought I wasn't right for it
b) I didn't do my homework before the interview
c) I went in with the wrong attitude

a) you can't really do much about, b) and c) you can.

You're saying your mum is spending all "your" money on herself? No work where you live? Move out. I had to move to London to get my first job, and I was younger than you are now. Perhaps you will have to sell your bike. Tough. Take a photo of it before it goes.

Sorry to sound harsh, but there is nothing uglier and less productive than self-pity.
 
I guess I figured I'd be flamed for not having a job, but think back to when you were young, espescially if you had bad grades or lived in a quiet area out of the way of everything. Jobs aren't there for anyone. I'm in one of the highest unemployment areas in the country, so much so that the government are doing things in the area to try and make more jobs available.

I guess unless you know what its like you can't understand.

I've been working since I was 13, delivering newspapers turned into helping out in the shop and I only left there because of my exams and moving away.

Take a look at your children or family, I'm sure someone will be in my position with jobs. Maybe then you'll be able too see it from another perspective.
 
IWish":127uxvp6 said:
I guess unless you know what its like you can't understand.

OK, I'll cast my mind back to when I was "young".

1993. The last depression, in fact. I failed all my GCSEs and couldn't get a job, so I moved to London and got one there. It was the first time I was away from my parents. I was 16. Twenty years on, my life has turned out differently from that of the friends I had then, but I'm mostly happy with how I've made it.

Of course, if you want to waste your energy hankering after toys you can't afford(yes, we're all adults, but high end bikes are toys), that's your choice.

With your attitude the world will prove you "right", and you'll never do a day's work in your life. But don't for a second assume that's the way it has to be. You have choices.
 
IWish":v1na1960 said:
I guess I figured I'd be flamed for not having a job, but think back to when you were young, espescially if you had bad grades or lived in a quiet area out of the way of everything. Jobs aren't there for anyone. I'm in one of the highest unemployment areas in the country, so much so that the government are doing things in the area to try and make more jobs available.

I guess unless you know what its like you can't understand.

I've been working since I was 13, delivering newspapers turned into helping out in the shop and I only left there because of my exams and moving away.

Take a look at your children or family, I'm sure someone will be in my position with jobs. Maybe then you'll be able too see it from another perspective.
I'm not going to flame you for not having a job - we at least not, per se.

And I will cast my mind back to when I was your age (I'm guessing around 18 ). I didn't have a decent mountain bike, then - I had a Raleigh Mustang, that I upgraded with bits as an when I could afford - and yes, I was working then, started my first full-time job at 18, after finishing my A-levels (before that worked part-time, and carried on doing some part-time work for some years into my proper full-time career).

I was 21 before I could actually afford to buy my first proper mountain bike of my own (up to then, I either made do with my heavily modified Mustang, or regularly borrowed other peoples' bikes that they'd moved on from). In fairness, I had bought my own house at the age of 20, so other things like bikes - never mind motorbikes or cars - were somewhat secondary for quite a while.

If you've got a half decent bike that you can use and is up to the job, then be happy with that, plenty of us (I suspect) were have nots and had to make do until such a time as there was some spare money to do any more.

Collecting, aspiring to better bikes than is needed or suits, is all well and good if you've got the money - but if you've no job, but still got a reasonable bike, then be grateful, because you're probably a good few steps ahead of where I was, BITD.
 
Ditto.I had a muddyfox pathfinder :D It went through 2 rattle can paintjobs when it lived with me,neither of which looked very nice :lol:

Took to the age of about 30 before i git something nice and even then that was the bottom of the range cannondale m200.
Those heady days of 50mm elastomer forks 8)
 
IWish":3706gns7 said:
I guess unless you know what its like you can't understand. .

The reason people like you are in the position you are is because of this 'oh woe is me, life is so hard' attitude.

People all around the world cope with their own difficulties in life every day.

Difference between many of them and you is that they aren't sobbing over high-end bikes and bits they can't have (although, 2 Zaskars and a Yo Eddy could be considered decent quality), they are getting off their arses, not looking for sympathy and sorting it out.

If your situation is as bad as you paint it, you don't have the luxury of sentimentality.
You have the resources available to change things only you refuse to use them..

This isn't flaming because you don't have a job.. nobody has done that (although it would suit you to think that..).
You refuse to help yourself. That's why people won't pander to your whining.
 
I have to agree with what has been said.

I left school in yorkshire with no qualifications. All I could get workwise was a YTS which was basically skivvying. A string of dead end jobs followed, but I saved and bought a bike (a Raleigh Dakota), that got nicked, so I saved again and "upgraded" to a Raleigh Activator, which I broke.

I worked hard, got a better job, so i could afford a Saracen Sahara, which also got nicked. With the insurance money, plus some more that I saved, I got an orange p7.

I went back to college and re-sat my GCSEs, and got better grades, got a much better job, and saved yet again. Bought myself my dream bike, my rc200, which I still have :D

Do you see a pattern there?

Sorry to be blunt, but only YOU can sort this out.

At least this wasn't a thinly veiled thread attempting to get free/cheap parts by making folks feel sorry for you.....
 
It's hardly a refusal to help myself.

I have used my own money I made when I was delivering papers and working the apprentiship too afford the zaskar and the fat. One of the zaskars I have had was my dads so I hardly paid for that. It has a dent so its been retired and the fat was parted because I didn't like the way it rode at all. Probably because it was a size too small.

I have a few things ill never sell no matter how hard it gets because that's how much they mean too me.

I want to spend more money on a frame ill keep and like over constantly upgrading something low-end that ill hate.
 
Sorry fella, I re-read your post and saw that you havn't got them anymore.

Still, you could have built your present bike with what you got for them, no?
 
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