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Neil":39ed5c31 said:
Nah my spazzo fingers just have a mind of their own.
I have an idea...
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Nah my spazzo fingers just have a mind of their own.
Neil":361hjwxy said:
Agree. I'd love to f**k the Queen. Her and her kind have been f**king the people of this country since history has been recorded. Not just this country but the Scot's, Welsh & Irish have regularly been f**k by her fore fathers.
The country can live with out them. Position by birth is very wrong.
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al":1tw5im9o said:Also, the Scottish people may want Balmoral back when Scotland 'does one', and has a say in it's own affairs,without inteference from a bunch of rich Southern English political ponces. That may raise a couple of quid.
al.
If the Scots did go there own way, could they afford to stay that way? Easy enough to begin with after all they already have had their hospitals, airport's, schools etc etc built with U.K's money. I mean will they depend on England for defence? will they use the £ or will they join the euro (snigger). I cant think of many scottish exports apart from whiskey, haggis and nessy. Cant see that paying for much. Would like to see it happen if only so we can see them come back a few years later cap in hand
I very much doubt they would need to?poweredbypies":1qw9r32j said:al":1qw9r32j said:Also, the Scottish people may want Balmoral back when Scotland 'does one', and has a say in it's own affairs,without inteference from a bunch of rich Southern English political ponces. That may raise a couple of quid.
al.
If the Scots did go there own way, could they afford to stay that way? Easy enough to begin with after all they already have had their hospitals, airport's, schools etc etc built with U.K's money. I mean will they depend on England for defence? will they use the £ or will they join the euro (snigger). I cant think of many scottish exports apart from whiskey, haggis and nessy. Cant see that paying for much. Would like to see it happen if only so we can see them come back a few years later cap in hand
Don't they have a shed load of natural resource (gas... oil?)
Ji
Actually no, they dont.
Neil":3n4uac0r said:I very much doubt they would need to?poweredbypies":3n4uac0r said:al":3n4uac0r said:Also, the Scottish people may want Balmoral back when Scotland 'does one', and has a say in it's own affairs,without inteference from a bunch of rich Southern English political ponces. That may raise a couple of quid.
al.
If the Scots did go there own way, could they afford to stay that way? Easy enough to begin with after all they already have had their hospitals, airport's, schools etc etc built with U.K's money. I mean will they depend on England for defence? will they use the £ or will they join the euro (snigger). I cant think of many scottish exports apart from whiskey, haggis and nessy. Cant see that paying for much. Would like to see it happen if only so we can see them come back a few years later cap in hand
Don't they have a shed load of natural resource (gas... oil?)
Actually no, they dont.
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mainly off shore, this has been discussed and I belive most of it falls outside Scottish waters. So unless they stump up for their own drilling rigs and the like they wont see much. Also would they then been seen as another country then be liable for export duty and the like on anything bought in over the border?
Well can't say as I'm an expert in it - it was just a throwaway comment from something I read at some point.Russell":3ky3rrbm said:JiNeil":3ky3rrbm said:I very much doubt they would need to?poweredbypies":3ky3rrbm said:al":3ky3rrbm said:Also, the Scottish people may want Balmoral back when Scotland 'does one', and has a say in it's own affairs,without inteference from a bunch of rich Southern English political ponces. That may raise a couple of quid.
al.
If the Scots did go there own way, could they afford to stay that way? Easy enough to begin with after all they already have had their hospitals, airport's, schools etc etc built with U.K's money. I mean will they depend on England for defence? will they use the £ or will they join the euro (snigger). I cant think of many scottish exports apart from whiskey, haggis and nessy. Cant see that paying for much. Would like to see it happen if only so we can see them come back a few years later cap in hand
Don't they have a shed load of natural resource (gas... oil?)
Actually no, they dont.
But, from wikipedia (yes, I know, not 100% perfect, but generally accurate...):-
"Scotland's Gross Domestic Product (GDP), including oil and gas produced in Scottish waters, was estimated at £137.5 billion for the calendar year 2009"
Now unless there's some huge controversy about whether the oil and gas can truly be annexed by Scotland, £137.5 billion seems a non trivial amount.
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I'm all for bringing back "Brittania".
She was a cracking looking tub; none of this rusky oligarch trash you get cluttering up the quayside.
This is what has become of her;
http://www.royalyachtbritannia.co.uk/
Built on the Clyde, but ending her days in...
Leith. :cry:
She was a cracking looking tub; none of this rusky oligarch trash you get cluttering up the quayside.
This is what has become of her;
http://www.royalyachtbritannia.co.uk/
Built on the Clyde, but ending her days in...
Leith. :cry:
As for Scottish industry - there's a long life left in the North Sea - as much left down there as there's been taken out so far. Yes, it's getting harder to get to, but the rising cost of oil means that new resources are becoming profitable all the time. When it does run out the expertise will transfer to new technologies like carbon capture and storage.
Then there's renewable energy, we're moving towards a point where we are going to finally take advantage of the shitty weather we endure to become a net exporter of "clean" electricity from hydro and wind power (and maybe tidal, jury's still out there I think). This isn't a pipe dream, I work for a company at the heart of it, the technology and the figures stack up.
Scotland's also on the way to being a top datacentre provider, another advantage of our crap climate. Throw in the usual suspects like food & drink manufacturing, tech start-ups in IT, electronics and bio-tech spinning out of our internationally recognised universities, and tourism as well. Does that sound like it could support a population smaller than London's?
Then there's renewable energy, we're moving towards a point where we are going to finally take advantage of the shitty weather we endure to become a net exporter of "clean" electricity from hydro and wind power (and maybe tidal, jury's still out there I think). This isn't a pipe dream, I work for a company at the heart of it, the technology and the figures stack up.
Scotland's also on the way to being a top datacentre provider, another advantage of our crap climate. Throw in the usual suspects like food & drink manufacturing, tech start-ups in IT, electronics and bio-tech spinning out of our internationally recognised universities, and tourism as well. Does that sound like it could support a population smaller than London's?
JeRkY":bhlgf5vd said:
Firstly, she has no actual power whatsoever. None.
Secondly, if she did, why on earth would you want that position to be held by someone who got it by virtue of who their parents were, rather than a democratically elected individual? If the "president" (or whatever) we chose turned out to be a rotter we just vote in another one in a few years, can't do that with the royals can we?
Anyway, she's not my queen, I didn't vote for her...
