Harry Quinn dating and value

[531Man]

Hi Nob,
Of course, I did mention, "More details and photos will follow." so when it's completely out of its box I'll reconstruct it as it was before dismantling for couriering to me.
This was the in original advert description,
"Vintage Harry Quinn road bike for restoration. A friends dad used to race this in Cumbria, most likely in the eighties and won plenty on it. It’s a lightweight bike, guessing Reynolds tubing. Would make a great bike restored or left as a rat bike. Measures 56cm from centre of the bottom bracket to base of seat post. It’s stamped underneath and seems to read Nervex and some numbers/letters. Nice lugs on it."
So until later, bye for now.

I've just studied the BB stampings more intensely and realised those 'TT' are made from the same 1's used for the O1 to make the Q.
Figures really.
That's what he had to hand.

 

[Nob]

Just number stamps back then

 

[531Man]

OK, things reinserted, tubs given a puff of air. More after this:

 

[531Man]

2nd batch TT2Q:

 

[531Man]

Last batch TT2Q :



The frame lugs are filed right down to almost nothing. Almost no edge to put the lining pale blue along.
The colour is a bit tricky - metallic fern green with panels of silver on the seat tube. The top tube and down tube may have had a later light blow over with more silver.

 

[mick1946]

I would say that was early 1960s by the look of the components not sure what the gears are maybe Huret? fiamme rims ?

 

[jim haseltine]

Gear lever looks like Huret but the rear mech looks almost like a Suntour Mountech

 

[531Man]

Gear lever looks like Huret but the rear mech looks almost like a Suntour Mountech

That's where I was headed and thinking.
So close,
The lever is boss mounted Huret, but the gears are Suntour ARII.
Rims need more study.

 

[jim haseltine]

Ah, yes. The Mountech used the odd internal cable route slant parallelogram from the AR series rear mechs.

 

[531Man]

I would say that was early 1960s by the look of the components not sure what the gears are maybe Huret? fiamme rims ?

Rims are not the same. Similar, but slightly different curvature.
The whole front wheel looks to be a replacement.
The rear is Campagnolo hub with Record name but missing clip over the present oil hole hub, 36H sprint rim with valve eyelet; the front 32H sprint with no eyelet, NO name hub with possibly cartridge bearings (black plastic covers) no grease obvious at the interface - and the previous owner was not afraid of grease elsewhere! (Cumbria weather?).
Bottom bracket slight mixture, Tange RH cup with captive balls,
LH, unbranded replacement cup with captive balls and presumably original TDC lockring.
Headset chromed steel, really lightweight looking with loose ball - TDC. (Competition?).
TT2Q stamped Frame 56cm ctt - Interesting!
I said and showed, letterbox cut-out Nervex bottom bracket.
Bare frame 1801g
Those rear pencil stays are really straight and narrow.
Bare forks 629g
Total 2430g
Rear dropouts Campagnolo vertical with gear hanger and mudguard eyelet.
Front dropouts AGRATI, no eyelet.
Tube says Reynolds 16/13 (butt guage I read), markings are faint.
The crown race just came off by hand.
26.8mm i/d,
Fork crown cup face measures 26.6 - 7.
Has vertical cut grooves all round the race fitting face.
No sign of centre popping to make race fit.
The-the-that's all for now folks!