Gazelle Champ or Gisele Chump

[Keeks]

G'day folks,
I'm heading out to view a so claimed 1970s Gazelle Champion Mondial tomorrow. Now I'm new to the world of vintage road bikes, but have always had an appreciation for their design (just nuts about lugs!) Anyway the images in the ad show the seat stays meeting the seat post lug but not actually wrapping around it. I'd even say the chamfer is not as crispy looking as I've seen on other Mondial's of that era that don't wrap around the lug . So before I put my hand in my back pocket I wonder if anyone knows whether there'd be a model of this frame type fitting this description? Any and all help is very welcome and appreciated! Champ or Chump????

 

[grantoury]

Do you have any more pics?

 

[pigman]

I don't think it's one of their top racing frames. The 531 decal suggests 531 plain gauge rather than butted and the lugs look cheaper than the CM. I'd say it was one of their "training" frames. If it's cheap enough, don't discount it if all you want is a retro rider for gentle leisure rides, but don't pay too much. The market is in a slump and for £150-200 you can get a "proper" retro race bike

 

[grantoury]

This is a Tour de l'Avenir, build looks similar. I think the frame tubes are butted still. I had one and it is a fine semi race bike. Probably eighties I think. EDIT not a champion modial

 

[Keeks]

Thanks for the pointers!!! Really appreciate that before handing over any cash! I think the photos they provided are pretty selective and random close ups. Asking price is enough that I'd be cautious about going for it.

 

[grantoury]

They usually had Gazelle branded SR cranksets and probably a Suntour derailleur. Nothing special.

 

[kermisking]

This is one of the lower models not champion Mondial quality . If its got mudguard eyes and clearance that might be a bonus , the higher end ones did not . The Mondials are great handling race bikes designed for Dutch criterium racing.

 

[juvela]

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shells on the Champion Mondial at this era were typically BOCAMA Professional

here is a closeup of a '79





our member @non-fixie will be sure to have some solid information to share...

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[tarehy]

Youre in Ireland like myself .I saw that earlier this evening .I wouldnt even be rushing out for a look at half the price.Theres far nicer for similar or a bit more even on the same website adverts dot eye ee !

 

[tarehy]

Also the bike looks like its set up for someone at least 6ft 4 or 5 inches ...are you that tall?The angles look totally weird due to the big frame size .Theres an actual 80s Gazelle Champion Modiale on Donedeal in a more average size.If buying a vintage bike youre basically looking at pre or post integrated brake and gear shifter levers (STI etc) .This was around 1990-1992 ish .Im biased but 1980s bikes generally are nicer and FASTER than 70s equivalents.I wouldnt rush into a purchase as they can be hard to resell unless bought cheap