Frame ID help required please

bhill22

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Liked the lugs, (pro nervex?) but have struggled with ID of the frame any ideas please

Also I cannot work out why on the TT there are two raised parts? (pic 566)
 

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Afraid I can't help with a positive ID but it looks a decent quality frame by all accounts. I am looking at the pics and to me at first glance it looks like the raised bits are cut down cable guides. Don't know why you would do that but still they look in the place where cable guides would be.

Jamie
 
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Looks to me as if it might have started as a "road/track" frame in the 50s, and then had rear campagnolo ends and brazed on bits added as gears came into the time trial world.

If no frame number it could have been on the original track ends.

Hundreds of people used Nervex Pro lugs, but few used crimped chain stays, mostly larger makers.

Keith
 
Not found any stamping/numbers as yet, but the paint is very thick! no head badge but paint could have covered
Down tube shifter boss - agreed, is this unusual or recognized as part of the nervex lugs?
used crimped chain stays, mostly larger makers does that mean the crimped chain stays are not in common with the rest of the
construction?

Anything recognizable on the forks?
 
Midlife":31n6hcg5 said:
Interesting area around the down tube shifter boss :)

Shaun
I was offered a similar 'sleeve' when getting a frame restored by Argos. It had a tiny crack in the seat tube that'd been there for a couple years without bother. I chose to get the tube replaced as it was already costing too much! But they did offer a reinforcing sleeve bit like that. Anyhow, not suggesting yours is cracked! Looks more of a feature. Rather interesting and unusual for sure.
 
The frame looks to be from the 60's with the over-bracket cable guides but this doesn't necessarily equate to braze-on lever bosses. Perhaps the sleeve IS a later addition to cover a crack (fitted when converting the rear ends?) - but why the braze-on top tube guides, later cut off? The tops of the seat stays where they meet the seat lug and the allen key seat bolt don't (to me at any rate) look particularly 'vintage'.

Some conflicting 'evidence' here :? :wink:
 
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