Frame ID help needed!

[keithglos]

It was mid 1950s before the GS was in fairly common use.

 

[SNight]

Would anybody say that the brake bridge and brake cable support could help define the frame?

Classic lightweights info with regards to serial numbers states that a bb number at "9 o'clock'" ( which this has) is commonly associated with Les Ephgrave. Also going off their serial number database some owners of Ephgraves' show that the serial numbers are quite often a three digit, and also a four digit number, and don't necessarily contain any letters.

I've yet to find an image of an ephgrave that shares the same cable pulley and the top of the bb shell, but a lot of the bikes share the same brake bridge feature and seat stays.

I might be way out.... Who knows!

 

[SNight]

Here's a few more photos that might help with ID

http://imageshack.us/a/img842/7616/jnsr.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/1530/43bi.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img827/9995/b58f.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img41/1388/n3ox.jpg

 

[OldTel]

Hi, lovely frame, but so many conflicting clues. I just thought I could throw a possible line of inquiry your way, seeing the stamping on the dropout reminded me of my Allin ( early seventies - see below ), the serial number would place it late 1958/ early 1959, which does place it right for early use of centrepull brakes but one of Peter Cobb's trademarks was the almost touching seat stay tops, nearly a wrap around but not quite, but that may of been just been for the Stan Butler Special ( the name given to the top of the range Allin ), worth a look any way. Terry

 

[SNight]

Still no luck with this yet! I've been searching every night and I can't find anything with similar features as mine.

Somebody on here must of come across a similar frame before?? Surely

Thanks for the clue with regards to allin. I've done some searching and yes the serial number is in the correct position as you say, although the seat stays tend to differ from the style on my frame there are some models that share the same seat stay detail. I'm yet to see one with the same center pull cable hanger, and the cable pulley on the bb shell.

It would be great if it was an allin!

 

[roadking]

Hi, lovely frame, but so many conflicting clues. I just thought I could throw a possible line of inquiry your way, seeing the stamping on the dropout reminded me of my Allin ( early seventies - see below ), the serial number would place it late 1958/ early 1959, which does place it right for early use of centrepull brakes but one of Peter Cobb's trademarks was the almost touching seat stay tops, nearly a wrap around but not quite, but that may of been just been for the Stan Butler Special ( the name given to the top of the range Allin ), worth a look any way. Terry

The full wrapover seatstay was only a feature of the top Allin frames made by Peter Cobb (Cobby), those being the Stan Butler Special.

That seatstay brake bridge is far too crude for Peter Cobb built frame.

Jon.