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M-Power
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I love foxes, always have a few in the garden and often some cubs in season. That being said they would be shot (not always a clean kill) or agonisingly poisoned by farmers as a threat to livestock, so the concept of hunting them with hounds doesnt freak me out as much as some. Yes it brutal but i have seen countless foxes chasing rabbits and pheasants on golf courses, tooth and claw etc and listening to that squeeling is quite unsettling too, natural though it is.
I love foxes, always have a few in the garden and often some cubs in season. That being said they would be shot (not always a clean kill) or agonisingly poisoned by farmers as a threat to livestock, so the concept of hunting them with hounds doesnt freak me out as much as some. Yes it brutal but i have seen countless foxes chasing rabbits and pheasants on golf courses, tooth and claw etc and listening to that squeeling is quite unsettling too, natural though it is.
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Dogs individually and as packs of wolves/hunting dogs have been chasing and killing animals for 100s of thousands of years HF. What this is mostly about is disdain for perceived Tory 'Toffs' in red jackets blowing a bugle participating in the sport. It has eccos of landed gentry running amok. Plenty of prols in trackies illegally hare coursing in Herts, ( seen them at dusk when im out riding ) which is equally brutal for the poor hare but suprisingly not much lefty media interest in that. I dont like fox hunting as i said but I detest hypocrisy and media double standards.
Dogs individually and as packs of wolves/hunting dogs have been chasing and killing animals for 100s of thousands of years HF. What this is mostly about is disdain for perceived Tory 'Toffs' in red jackets blowing a bugle participating in the sport. It has eccos of landed gentry running amok. Plenty of prols in trackies illegally hare coursing in Herts, ( seen them at dusk when im out riding ) which is equally brutal for the poor hare but suprisingly not much lefty media interest in that. I dont like fox hunting as i said but I detest hypocrisy and media double standards.
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We will respectfully agree to dissagree on all the key points then HF. We live in reactionery times on social media. Its a platform for everybody to get outraged about the tinniest detail and vent spleen. Arguing about everything and anything, mostly for the hell of it is the new norm/sport.
Do you always make a clean kill of the deer ? Head shots miss, as do shots to the heart. Plenty of people would be outraged by your cull methods and requirements. Many hundreds of years ago apex predators like wolves and bears would have chased and ripped the deer to pieces naturally. We live in such a sanitized environment now that most school kids dont even know where supermarket meat comes from.
We will respectfully agree to dissagree on all the key points then HF. We live in reactionery times on social media. Its a platform for everybody to get outraged about the tinniest detail and vent spleen. Arguing about everything and anything, mostly for the hell of it is the new norm/sport.
Do you always make a clean kill of the deer ? Head shots miss, as do shots to the heart. Plenty of people would be outraged by your cull methods and requirements. Many hundreds of years ago apex predators like wolves and bears would have chased and ripped the deer to pieces naturally. We live in such a sanitized environment now that most school kids dont even know where supermarket meat comes from.
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It makes little difference to the quality of end of life of the 'prey/vermin', wether its 'badly shot' or poisoned and dies a slow agonising death in its borrow or is ripped spart in seconds by hounds, wolves etc. A crafty fox can still escape.
What about one of humans oldest forms of getting a good protein meal, persistence-hunting by the Bushmen of the Kalahari https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting, should that be banned too due to its human cruelty, due to that wonderful neo lib lefty word - progressiveness ?
Btw im all in favour of banning lion hunting by the Masaai in Kenya.
You are just virtue signalling HF. Its so fashionable these days dontyaknow ?
highlandsflyer":16w4jx8b said:
It makes little difference to the quality of end of life of the 'prey/vermin', wether its 'badly shot' or poisoned and dies a slow agonising death in its borrow or is ripped spart in seconds by hounds, wolves etc. A crafty fox can still escape.
What about one of humans oldest forms of getting a good protein meal, persistence-hunting by the Bushmen of the Kalahari https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting, should that be banned too due to its human cruelty, due to that wonderful neo lib lefty word - progressiveness ?
Btw im all in favour of banning lion hunting by the Masaai in Kenya.
You are just virtue signalling HF. Its so fashionable these days dontyaknow ?
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I wouldnt have much time for fox hunting but as a rural dweller I would have more distain toward the (urban Champagne)animal rights/hunt sabateur movement.
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This subject sickens me to the core. If they have to be culled - which I don't believe they do - there are far more clinical ways to do so. If they do escape, that's not always the end either, as dens will be dug out until a fox is literally scared out of it's den, or one is caught in it.
Sport? I don't think so!
There has been a distinct lack of fox road kill this week. I'm staying in the Forest of Dean, a far greater expanse of countryside than the south coast where I live. I think that because it goes on, people feel justified in taking the law into their own hands. As with badgers.
I often think that foxes are caught/shot and dumped at the side of the road to look like road kill, and the same could be said of badgers. But that's a whole thread on it's own.
In my own little world, I'm pleased that the foxes I feed every night, are relatively safe, compared to those living in the countryside.
Has the ban been officially lifted yet?
Mike
This subject sickens me to the core. If they have to be culled - which I don't believe they do - there are far more clinical ways to do so. If they do escape, that's not always the end either, as dens will be dug out until a fox is literally scared out of it's den, or one is caught in it.
Sport? I don't think so!
There has been a distinct lack of fox road kill this week. I'm staying in the Forest of Dean, a far greater expanse of countryside than the south coast where I live. I think that because it goes on, people feel justified in taking the law into their own hands. As with badgers.
I often think that foxes are caught/shot and dumped at the side of the road to look like road kill, and the same could be said of badgers. But that's a whole thread on it's own.
In my own little world, I'm pleased that the foxes I feed every night, are relatively safe, compared to those living in the countryside.
Has the ban been officially lifted yet?
Mike
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