Fat Chance Kickstarter
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hear hear.
Long Live the King.
M-Power":2g9br51t said:I'm patient enough to wait for things to bed in, prototypes often get a rethink. Opinions are subjective of course. I'm not blind in my in-Fatuation. I didn't commit my hard earned to a new framebut I will if they produce what 'I' want. I wonder how many of the Fat 'haters' on here will end up buying one if they become the latest must have in a years time.
As they say in advertising, there is no such thing as bad publicity and the Fat brand relaunch is getting its lions share. Long may it continue.
Love and kisses
a loyal
Fatista
hear hear.
Long Live the King.
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Ooof. I LOVE LOVE LOVE my vintage Fats, but I am so so so glad I didn't throw money away on this. Hopefully they get everything sorted out design-wise before production starts up. That said, even the builds are lame! And having a slim rigid fork on that Coke can head tube is silly -- for an all rigid option, why not make it dedicated and appropriate looking? These are basically one-offs, after all.
Ooof. I LOVE LOVE LOVE my vintage Fats, but I am so so so glad I didn't throw money away on this. Hopefully they get everything sorted out design-wise before production starts up. That said, even the builds are lame! And having a slim rigid fork on that Coke can head tube is silly -- for an all rigid option, why not make it dedicated and appropriate looking? These are basically one-offs, after all.
M-Power
Old School Grand Master
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Think most of us agree on the shortcomings of these prototypes. Chris has already stated he has plans for longer stays on the 29er to give more clearance. Hope he takes the constructive criticism from all these threads and blows us away with some bike candy over the coming months.
Looking forward to my expensive Fatwear but not the import fees :facepalm:
Think most of us agree on the shortcomings of these prototypes. Chris has already stated he has plans for longer stays on the 29er to give more clearance. Hope he takes the constructive criticism from all these threads and blows us away with some bike candy over the coming months.
Looking forward to my expensive Fatwear but not the import fees :facepalm:
mechanical_vandal
Retro Guru
Is it a ground breaking frame? No.
Was a small production run steel hardtail ever going to be? Probably not*.
Is it going to have universal appeal? Does any steel hardtail?
Is it being sold at a high enough price that it'll become a status symbol bike, the Leica of the cycling world if you will? Probably.
Does Chris Chance give a shit about my first 3 points? Probably not.
Will he sell enough frames on the back of my 4th point to have made this all worthwhile? Probably.
*The days of small manufacturers being innovators is gone, nowadays progress is driven by and for the brands that have the ability to change toolings and standards on regular basis and all the small companies can do is struggle to keep up.
Was a small production run steel hardtail ever going to be? Probably not*.
Is it going to have universal appeal? Does any steel hardtail?
Is it being sold at a high enough price that it'll become a status symbol bike, the Leica of the cycling world if you will? Probably.
Does Chris Chance give a shit about my first 3 points? Probably not.
Will he sell enough frames on the back of my 4th point to have made this all worthwhile? Probably.
*The days of small manufacturers being innovators is gone, nowadays progress is driven by and for the brands that have the ability to change toolings and standards on regular basis and all the small companies can do is struggle to keep up.
mechanical_vandal
Retro Guru
Yeah ok, maybe I worded that wrong.
There are of course builders and small (and not so small) brands catering to and innovating for their niches but I think it's quite clear that this isn't the type of market that Chance is aiming for.
He wants a frame that can be bought by lawyers and dentists and built up as money no object projects with the latest 'must have' forks, seatposts and wheel sizes etc.
It seems a shame that he's gone the cookie cutter route - I've just been looking at the Jones website and loving the lack of tapered headtubes and the abundance of qr dropouts - but it doesn't make him a bad person.
You would think though that since his frames aren't doing anything that hundreds of cheaper alternatives don't do then his had better do a bloody good job of doing what they do do - ie having mud clearance/room to fit a front mech - and that he should make sure they look bloody good doing it - ie having forks that don't look bodged on.
There are of course builders and small (and not so small) brands catering to and innovating for their niches but I think it's quite clear that this isn't the type of market that Chance is aiming for.
He wants a frame that can be bought by lawyers and dentists and built up as money no object projects with the latest 'must have' forks, seatposts and wheel sizes etc.
It seems a shame that he's gone the cookie cutter route - I've just been looking at the Jones website and loving the lack of tapered headtubes and the abundance of qr dropouts - but it doesn't make him a bad person.
You would think though that since his frames aren't doing anything that hundreds of cheaper alternatives don't do then his had better do a bloody good job of doing what they do do - ie having mud clearance/room to fit a front mech - and that he should make sure they look bloody good doing it - ie having forks that don't look bodged on.
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