Fat Chance Kickstarter

[sinnerman]

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Alan from Riverside might end up the UK distributor if it does all come out in the wash...

Interestingly they might not be able to sell them in the UK as Chris is not the Trademark owner for 'Fat Chance' in the UK, looks like someone in the UK grabbed the name for the use on bikes and clothes a few years back after Serotta let it lapse

https://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/1/UK00002584986

BLOODY HELL....

 

[sinnerman]

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Alan from Riverside might end up the UK distributor if it does all come out in the wash...

Interestingly they might not be able to sell them in the UK as Chris is not the Trademark owner for 'Fat Chance' in the UK, looks like someone in the UK grabbed the name for the use on bikes and clothes a few years back after Serotta let it lapse

https://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/1/UK00002584986

Is Chris Chance aware of this....? What are the legal (or other) ramifications if this then....?

 

[WD Pro]

I believe the UK bikes will be branded 'No Chance' ...

 

[pete_mcc]

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Basically Chris would have to pay a license fee to sell bikes in the UK under that name through an importer/dealer, and only if the trademark holder was willing to let him.
I think, worst case, he could even be stopped offering UK shipping from a U.S. site if the UK holder believed it was detrimental to his business.

If anyone wants, the UK trademark for 'Fat City Cycles' is up for grabs as is 'Yo Eddy'

This is how Supercycles made a load of money. The grabbed a bunch of newly expired UK trademarks and then sold them back to the owners who had forgotten to renew. I believe they did various ones including Syncros and, obviously, Onza

 

[novekili]

Balloons!

What were you expecting ? A huge pile of cocaine and some lookers chained up to the table to please prospective punters ?

I can't understand... at NAHBS builders can just show self-built frames. Fat Chance are built by Ventana. Power hof his name, methinks.

BTW, I'm very happy about his return, but I still prefer a frame built by FTW....

 

[sinnerman]

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Basically Chris would have to pay a license fee to sell bikes in the UK under that name through an importer/dealer, and only if the trademark holder was willing to let him.
I think, worst case, he could even be stopped offering UK shipping from a U.S. site if the UK holder believed it was detrimental to his business.

If anyone wants, the UK trademark for 'Fat City Cycles' is up for grabs as is 'Yo Eddy'

This is how Supercycles made a load of money. The grabbed a bunch of newly expired UK trademarks and then sold them back to the owners who had forgotten to renew. I believe they did various ones including Syncros and, obviously, Onza

Lets hope he is watching this thread intently.....

It would only take a bright spark to do it....

 

[FluffyChicken]

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Fat City Cycles would be a good name for Fat bike style City Bikes.

 

[pete_mcc]

I can't understand... at NAHBS builders can just show self-built frames. Fat Chance are built by Ventana. Power hof his name, methinks.

It is interesting.

http://www.2015.handmadebicycleshow.com ... ions-.docx

2. NO “COAT TAILING.” Please read this carefully. It is in the contract; it is not negotiable.
​​FRAME BUILDERS: DISPLAY ONLY WHAT YOU HAVE BUILT IN YOUR WORKSHOP.
No bicycles are permitted in any frame builder’s booth other than those built by the exhibitor, and if branded, bearing the exhibitor’s brand.
No sub-contracted bicycles are permitted. Not even those by a current-year NAHBS exhibitor.

 

[sinnerman]

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Fat City Cycles would be a good name for Fat bike style City Bikes.

Be just like it, you cant have your frame, as I don't own the name in the UK.

 

[sinnerman]

I can't understand... at NAHBS builders can just show self-built frames. Fat Chance are built by Ventana. Power hof his name, methinks.

It is interesting.

http://www.2015.handmadebicycleshow.com ... ions-.docx

2. NO “COAT TAILING.” Please read this carefully. It is in the contract; it is not negotiable.
​​FRAME BUILDERS: DISPLAY ONLY WHAT YOU HAVE BUILT IN YOUR WORKSHOP.
No bicycles are permitted in any frame builder’s booth other than those built by the exhibitor, and if branded, bearing the exhibitor’s brand.
No sub-contracted bicycles are permitted. Not even those by a current-year NAHBS exhibitor.

Empty stand it is then,....., good photo opportunity though....