Fat Chance Kickstarter

[brocklanders023]

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You can't call the new one a copy, it's designed and (probably) made by the same bloke. If I wanted an old one that's what I'd get but I'd have no interest in a new old one, what's the point? The new one 'should' be all that was good about the old but brought up to date to take advantage of modern tech.

 

[ez054098]

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You can't call the new one a copy, it's designed and (probably) made by the same bloke. If I wanted an old one that's what I'd get but I'd have no interest in a new old one, what's the point? The new one 'should' be all that was good about the old but brought up to date to take advantage of modern tech.

Exactly. The last new bike I purchased was 2008. I think 7 years is long enough to wait for a new one.

 

[WWC]

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You can't call the new one a copy, it's designed and (probably) made by the same bloke. If I wanted an old one that's what I'd get but I'd have no interest in a new old one, what's the point? The new one 'should' be all that was good about the old but brought up to date to take advantage of modern tech.

Exactly. The last new bike I purchased was 2008. I think 7 years is long enough to wait for a new one.

Don't know if you mean my use of the word copy but I was talking about the comment previous where the chap sounded like he'd be interested in a new copy of an original frame rather the the newly imagined yo that's on the cards.

 

[shogun]

If I'm honest the only thing I'd want to buy off a bike company aiming to replicate it's old marketing aura is a replica of it's old bikes. I would consider buying a brand new early 90s Yo at a cost of thousands, vs an iffy modern style-alike born out of a survey.

Interesting shout.

Though there are a lot of ‘golden age’ fat frames about for considerably less even if you factor in a re-spray.

Surely it’d be cooler to own a period frame rather than a copy?

60’s e-type vs. an exact replica from 2015? If the 2015 replica had modern up-grades it’d be better in some ways but then it wouldn’t an exact replica.

I.e. it would be the equivalent of what he’s doing with the new Yo.

If you want the best of both worlds there was even a NOS medium Yo on Fatcogs for $999. That’s nearly a grand less than the new version and ticks every other box.

The NOS one would be great. Likelihood of such being available regularly? Nil.

It's not a retro-tech version of the old one at all, I don't think that comparo works.
It is like BMW putting a white roof and some spotlights on a new mini and marketing it with the 60s Italian Job film, or Monte Carlo rally success with the BMC works team... It's a new vehicle and has nothing in common with the old one bar styling cues, but they want to use the images of the past to propel current sales and personally, I don't go in for that. If I were to want a modern Yo, I'd want a thoroughly modern Yo designed by people with up to the minute experience and marketed on it's merits.

I presume they won't be $2.5k when in series production or the company will fall over right quick.

 

[turbo]

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did the small pledge, maybe oneday will get a frame too.

 

[brocklanders023]

If I'm honest the only thing I'd want to buy off a bike company aiming to replicate it's old marketing aura is a replica of it's old bikes. I would consider buying a brand new early 90s Yo at a cost of thousands, vs an iffy modern style-alike born out of a survey.

Interesting shout.

Though there are a lot of ‘golden age’ fat frames about for considerably less even if you factor in a re-spray.

Surely it’d be cooler to own a period frame rather than a copy?

60’s e-type vs. an exact replica from 2015? If the 2015 replica had modern up-grades it’d be better in some ways but then it wouldn’t an exact replica.

I.e. it would be the equivalent of what he’s doing with the new Yo.

If you want the best of both worlds there was even a NOS medium Yo on Fatcogs for $999. That’s nearly a grand less than the new version and ticks every other box.

The NOS one would be great. Likelihood of such being available regularly? Nil.

It's not a retro-tech version of the old one at all, I don't think that comparo works.
It is like BMW putting a white roof and some spotlights on a new mini and marketing it with the 60s Italian Job film, or Monte Carlo rally success with the BMC works team... It's a new vehicle and has nothing in common with the old one bar styling cues, but they want to use the images of the past to propel current sales and personally, I don't go in for that. If I were to want a modern Yo, I'd want a thoroughly modern Yo designed by people with up to the minute experience and marketed on it's merits.

I presume they won't be $2.5k when in series production or the company will fall over right quick.

Using that logic then anything other then the original, built at the original factory can't be classed as a Yo. Would it make a difference if FC hadn't folded and this new bike was just the current version of the Yo?

 

[shogun]

It probably would make a difference, because there wouldn't have been a close to 20 year lapse in development progression.

 

[WWC]

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Ha!

This is getting beautifully complex if we’re debating the true meaning of ‘Yo-ness’!

Technically anything made by an entity legally licenced by the owner of the brand/model etc (or something along those lines as I’m not a lawyer!) would be a Yo.

So absolutely this is a Yo because Chris owns the brand/model etc. Add that to the fact he was the main man BITD so if he can’t make a new Yo who can?

Whether or not you can define the meaning of ‘Yo-ness’ beyond that is another question…

 

[ez054098]

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All I know is I am excited to get one.

 

[WWC]

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All I know is I am excited to get one.

Signed up have you?

That'll be a build thread I can't wait to see!

2.5k pack?