F1 legend: Pirelli tires are dangerous

Barneyballbags":3ny536ci said:
If the FIA want to maintain the number of pit stops, but increase the longevity of the tyres, they should bring back refuelling.
Think I'd agree with you, there.

Whilst many are enjoying the contrived changes, in recent years, I can't help but think too much has gone towards machinations for the spectacle and the computer games generation.

By all means, lots of mechanical grip, perhaps reduce the aero grip - or make it more like ground-effects again, so that close following can happen.

I've just found the DRS and / or KERS enabled overtakes to be meh, the tyres "falling off the cliff" to be too contrived, and yes, I think I've missed the refuelling and impact it often could have on strategy.
 
The degradation of tyres can only make this dreary spectacle a little more watchable.... maybe not!

al.
 
Raging_Bulls":3hr8gias said:
Remove all the electronic aids, bring back the unrestricted turbos, flat noses and manual gearboxes. Let's see who can actually drive their F1 cars, like in the old days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS3vq0oZnxg

Give Bernie a phone call, I've got a tenner to add to the Retrobike F1 takeover bid.

al.
 
al":3rtlu8q0 said:
Raging_Bulls":3rtlu8q0 said:
Remove all the electronic aids, bring back the unrestricted turbos, flat noses and manual gearboxes. Let's see who can actually drive their F1 cars, like in the old days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS3vq0oZnxg

Give Bernie a phone call, I've got a tenner to add to the Retrobike F1 takeover bid.

al.
I can't think about Bernie E without thinking about Weekend at Bernie's and wondering whether there's a couple of cheeky young scamps just kind of moving him around everything and pretending - and when you hear him talk? Ventriloquism.
 
I absolutely love F1, but there are far too many mechanical aids available to the drivers now. It's become less about driving and more about managing.

It'd be interesting to have a race where the pit crew don't have a clue what the weather is going to do, what the track temparature is, or how long the tyres are going to last.

The way it's going, in a few years time it's going to be more like Mario Cart, with power-ups and speed boosters all over the place! ;)
 
Barneyballbags":1qiht9up said:
I absolutely love F1, but there are far too many mechanical aids available to the drivers now. It's become less about driving and more about managing.
Exactly - great point, there.

When Schumacher recently had his rant about the tyres, then Anderson had a rant about Schumacher - essentially saying "Stop moaning, that's your job..." I sorta thought Anderson is missing the point. Just because that's the evolution of the drivers role, doesn't necessarily mean that all such factors are good progress.

Anderson just spouted what most team bosses would say (yes, I get, he's no longer a "technical director", he's now a "technical expert" or perhaps informed pundit for the BBC) - maybe it's natural for them to try and impose some of their value system on the ethereal, almost witchcraft like talent that some drivers have - which makes me think there's some truth in that old chestnut that good team bosses make lousy drivers, and good drivers make lousy team bosses - it misses the point about what (I suspect) most drivers want out of the sport, and quite probably, what most fans want - drivers being excellent at that whole driving skill, rather than brilliant multi-taskers, that have to "manage" things.

I don't want races or drivers performance to appear "managed" I want to think they're doing it by the seat of the pants, and are a whisker away from the gravel - I want them to be flat-out, trying everything possible, rather than having to simply "manage" or temper their effort.

"managing" performance, fuel usage and tyres caused the end of my interest in Indy / CHAMP / CART racing. And F1 has become as much about that than out-and-out, flat-out skill.
Barneyballbags":1qiht9up said:
The way it's going, in a few years time it's going to be more like Mario Cart, with power-ups and speed boosters all over the place! ;)
And Dick Dastardly throwing banana skills and oil slicks.

Hard racing and seat-of-the-pants ability, not managed, multi-tasking technicians.
 
Neil":25nogs1i said:
Barneyballbags":25nogs1i said:
The way it's going, in a few years time it's going to be more like Mario Cart, with power-ups and speed boosters all over the place! ;)
And Dick Dastardly throwing banana skills and oil slicks.

Schumacher is the obvious contenter for Dick Dastardly.

Jenson is a bit of a tart, bless him, so he can be Penelope Pitstop.

Ferrari (in general) can be the Ant Hill Mob.

Lewis, given his occasional fondness for the odd push or shove during the race, can be Captain Caveman.


And Bernie Ecclestone can be whoever the feck he likes!
 
Neil":2hxa2jnb said:
al":2hxa2jnb said:
Raging_Bulls":2hxa2jnb said:
Remove all the electronic aids, bring back the unrestricted turbos, flat noses and manual gearboxes. Let's see who can actually drive their F1 cars, like in the old days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS3vq0oZnxg

Give Bernie a phone call, I've got a tenner to add to the Retrobike F1 takeover bid.

al.
I can't think about Bernie E without thinking about Weekend at Bernie's and wondering whether there's a couple of cheeky young scamps just kind of moving him around everything and pretending - and when you hear him talk? Ventriloquism.

Reminds me of a gag from I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue a couple of series back. The round involved completing taglines from cinema posters (Weekend At Bernie's in this instance, obviously);

Jack Dee: Complete the following; "Bernie may be dead, but he's...."
Graeme Garden: "....still running Formula 1 racing"

;)

David
 
David B":1tvfc9l2 said:
Neil":1tvfc9l2 said:
al":1tvfc9l2 said:
Raging_Bulls":1tvfc9l2 said:
Remove all the electronic aids, bring back the unrestricted turbos, flat noses and manual gearboxes. Let's see who can actually drive their F1 cars, like in the old days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS3vq0oZnxg

Give Bernie a phone call, I've got a tenner to add to the Retrobike F1 takeover bid.

al.
I can't think about Bernie E without thinking about Weekend at Bernie's and wondering whether there's a couple of cheeky young scamps just kind of moving him around everything and pretending - and when you hear him talk? Ventriloquism.
Reminds me of a gag from I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue a couple of series back. The round involved completing taglines from cinema posters (Weekend At Bernie's in this instance, obviously);

Jack Dee: Complete the following; "Bernie may be dead, but he's...."
Graeme Garden: "....still running Formula 1 racing"

;)

David
Graeme Garden has aged like fine wine.
 
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