Ex Michael's Jackson/Raleigh, re-listed

[foz]

Re: Michael's Non-Jackson

Jackson's will refinish any frame, and don't mind putting their decals on something that's not theirs. Maybe the previous owner bought it as a BJ and never knew different?

 

[Mike Muz]

Re:

That's entirely plausible Foz, they wouldn't be alone in doing that either. It is a lovely paint job

Just a shame it's not what I thought it was.

Would like to find exactly what it is before I decide whether to return it or not

Mike

 

[Midlife]

Re: Michael's Non-Jackson

The weight of the frame and forks for the size is pretty light... so certainly not a shabby frame.

Shaun

 

[Mike Muz]

Re: Michael's Non-Jackson

The weight of the frame and forks for the size is pretty light... so certainly not a shabby frame.

Shaun

As suggested just now by OSK Somewhere between 1982 and 1986 was his thoughts. Not a Gran Course, as they had shot in stays, and mine doesn't.
Possibly some 531 Pro tubing too, not original internal routing and MAYBE pump peg removed. Probably done when re-sprayed.


Need to find some old catalogues. I'll try archives on here Shaun

 

[bedraggled]

Re: Michael's Non-Jackson

I'll happily give my two pennth
If the serial number is from 1986 it was presumably sold as a full bike.
The SBDU did framesets with SB numbers and Nottingham did full bikes with W numbers.
The over size seat stay caps were the hallmark of high end Raleighs so it's good quality.
Presumably the internal routing was done by Bob Jackson's when it was repainted.
I suspect the chroming might also have been done afterwards, 70's Raleighs had lots of chrome but I haven't seen many examples of mid/late 80's with chrome.
Not sure if the forks are original, have you got any better pictures?

 

[Mike Muz]

Re: Michael's Non-Jackson

I'll happily give my two pennth
If the serial number is from 1986 it was presumably sold as a full bike.
The SBDU did framesets with SB numbers and Nottingham did full bikes with W numbers.
The over size seat stay caps were the hallmark of high end Raleighs so it's good quality.
Presumably the internal routing was done by Bob Jackson's when it was repainted.
I suspect the chroming might also have been done afterwards, 70's Raleighs had lots of chrome but I haven't seen many examples of mid/late 80's with chrome.
Not sure if the forks are original, have you got any better pictures?

Thanks for your insight

I'll get some fork pics, now Mrs Muz has gone to bed and I can sneak them in the house!

Give me a few minutes

Mike

 

[Retro Spud]

Re: Michael's Non-Jackson

I'll get some fork pics, now Mrs Muz has gone to bed and I can sneak them in the house!


Mike

christ Mike has romance died in your house, or are you all loved up in Retro heaven

 

[Mike Muz]

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Here we go,

WP_20161202_21_54_38_Pro by Michael Murray, on Flickr

WP_20161202_21_54_55_Pro by Michael Murray, on Flickr

WP_20161202_21_55_12_Pro by Michael Murray, on Flickr

The holes just above the drop outs appear to have been filled in, prior to chroming maybe.

WP_20161202_21_56_24_Pro by Michael Murray, on Flickr

Mike

 

[Mike Muz]

Re: Michael's Non-Jackson

I'll get some fork pics, now Mrs Muz has gone to bed and I can sneak them in the house!


Mike

christ Mike has romance died in your house, or are you all loved up in Retro heaven

No time to speak, I'm about to strip and re-grease a rear hub, before tomorrow's ride

Mike

 

[bedraggled]

Re: Michael's Non-Jackson

I suspect it was one of these before being altered.

http://www.vintagevelo.co.uk/2015/02/04 ... ic-replica