Do you own a fillet-brazed Ritchey? Sure?

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thanks. that is a great read. can't believe he built all
those frames in his high school grad year. :shock:
I know what I was doing.
we'll I sorta remember. :facepalm:
 
"I had already made over 500 bikes at that time. In 1980, I built over 400 bikes which were sold through Gary and Charlie's operation in Fairfax"

Further down article:

In 1980 I hired one unemployed 18 year old neighbor, who I kept busy mitering and prepping tubes, while I built the first 200 fillet-brazed mountain bikes for the new sport of Mountainbiking, and painted them. I still remember building 50 or so road bikes that year.



I have read this article before and this confuses me. If TR built over 400 bikes for Gary and Charlie before 1981, where are they? I am probably one of TR's biggest fanboys, but this just doesn't add up at all.

Either:

1.Something is totally jacked with what little we know about the TR serial numbers from these years.

2. Someone has done one heck of a job hoarding and keeping hidden most all the Ritchey Mountain Bikes built before 1981.

3. There were not nearly as many pre 1981 frames made as claimed.

I follow this era close. Very close. Yes, I know of some pre 1981 TR built frames but not many. I know of several 1981/1982/1983/1984 frames with collectors. In theory, shouldn't there be an equal amount of these 400 built pre 1981 frames showing up in collections as the other early years are?

I ask, where are they? A quick look at the OldMountainBikes web sites serial number database will show something is not adding up. Don't show me Tom's personal bike, or ever Alan's ride. I see a potential with two serial number less bikes listed as 81's that could be pre 81's but that is it. Without dragging on too long here, believe, I have looked way beyond this very public and accessible database.

To reiterate:

I am aware of a few pre 1981 frames, but if there were really 400 made, where are they? Some should be showing up in collections.

And yes, this is a specific bike I seek for my collection.

I hope to hear some opinions or clear answers on this topic.
 
And, just because it seems there should be some Tom Ritchey created, fillet brazed goodness on this page, here are a few pre 84's lined up in different stages of restoration or preservation:

 
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TR is talking about events from 30-40 years ago. Knowing a bit about how memory works, I take it all with a pinch of salt - particularly the detail (dates, numbers). Sadly I suspect your analysis is probably better than his memory. And that's not to doubt his sincerity or credibility at all - studies have shown we all make these honest mistakes.
 
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jaypee":78s2ttg6 said:
TR is talking about events from 30-40 years ago. Knowing a bit about how memory works, I take it all with a pinch of salt - particularly the detail (dates, numbers). Sadly I suspect your analysis is probably better than his memory. And that's not to doubt his sincerity or credibility at all - studies have shown we all make these honest mistakes.

Totally agree 100% with everything you state.
 
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