Deaths of Paces & Kleins

pinguwin

Retro Guru
In another thread, Jez wrote:
I personally havent seen any early Kleins that have suffered deaths...A lot of the guys here have witnessed quite a few Pace die

I thought I posted this picture before but if not, here is a picture of an earlier Klein that wasn't just damaged, it was most definitely death. Had it cracked 30 seconds later when I would have been bombing down hills instead of on flat ground, it could have been the death of me.

The bike was in a crash and was checked out, all was well. Two days later going around as S-turn on a college campus, I couldn't make the second half of the turn, the bike wouldn't respond. I was going straight for a big rock but couldn't avoid it. I hit the brakes and slowed down before impact. I heard a "plink" and the bike sagged. I looked down and noticed a bit of damage.

The downtube weld was faulty. There was weld bead on the head tube & down tube which held the bike together, but the two tubes never joined and cleanly separated. You can see the clean mitres on the down tube, hardly a welding disturbance to be seen I suspect that the down tube joint had failed just as I was turning, causing me to be unable to complete the curve. When the front wheel hit, the top tube ripped in two and looking at the damage, it was most definitely torn in two.

When I looked down, first I laughed, then I cried, then I said, "Eh, might as well" and laughed. Two years later I was talking to a friend and he said, "Do you remember how we met?" I said, "In the computer labs." "Nope. Remember the three people sitting by the rock when you crashed your bike? I was one of them."
 

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Who ever 'welded' that down tube should be shot, It looks like there's zero penetration for at least 75% of that junction! Quality bikes these Kleins! :roll:
 
guybe":1vx2oken said:
Can that frame be saved

It's way too far gone. The top tube was deformed when ripped in two and deformed right at the joint. Someone could put it back together again but heat treating would destroy the paint and before you know it, you've just spent a lot of money for something that would only be trusted as a wallhanger.
 
That's a bummer, the colour of the bike looked lovely and it's a Klien bike! oh well I guess it's better to be safe than sorry.
 
cherrybomb":2i962fzk said:
It looks like there's zero penetration for at least 75% of that junction!

Not just looks, it is zero penetration. Here is a closeup of the joint (sorry for the so-so pic). Notice how clean the miter on the down tube are and note the impression of the downtube upon the top tube. This joint was a major *$#@-up no doubt.

I love Kleins and have owned many since then, two of which were my day to day bikes, one of which got five years of hard use and the other over ten. A '96 is still my day to day bike but this one wasn't as well made. It got weeded out pretty quickly, only lasted 3 1/2 months.

Actually surprised that it lasted that long as I was racing every weekend expert class and didn't work the summer of 1990 and just rode an average of 4-5 hours a day. I was a grad student at the time and took my research assistant pay and saved like a demon, enough that I could buy an Attitude and take the summer off by choice. It's a little uncomfortable looking at these pictures, I had soooooo many good times on that bike. So many.

'guin
 

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Sorry, but I can't resist asking: that bit on the MC stem/bar where the paint is missing... is that where you've hit yourself in the nuts with it? (It happened to me one time. I didn't crack the paint off, though). No offence. :shock: :oops:

But yeah, real shame 'bout that bike... so you've spent a lot of money on a quality "best bike on the planet" and you still ain't safe. Just imagine if that'd happened on a trail somewhere :shock: :?

Void(EN12-82)
 
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