Death penalty in the UK, yes or no???

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highlandsflyer":22qr9vwm said:
That is pathetic.

The majority of soldiers involved in peace keeping missions and policing missions use their weapons for protection.

So lemmie get this right...

They hold up their guns, and then they magically become invincible?

A shield protects. A bulletproof vest protects.

Guns shoot bullets, and bullets put holes in things. If one of those things is a person, then that person has a very bad day indeed.

Food for thought here - Maybe extremists wouldn't want to kill us if we didn't send young lads over packing guns all the time. Kicking the hornets nest springs to mind.
 
Bpool77":34hyel60 said:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/marine-who-killed-injured-insurgent-is-named-publicly.22876293

Is it wrong? Or wright?

If you are stupid enough to think voluntary war is a good life choice, you deserve a life sentence anyway.

That aside, the Geneva convention is there for a reason, and he even admitted at the time he'd broken it.

What should worry you is that this incident was only discovered when they were searching the camera for something else. The way he killed the bloke was incredibly casual, as if it was no big deal. So how many other times has stuff like this happened?
 
"Is it wrong? Or wright?"

Ian Wright (Wright Wright!)?

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That Herald article is sickeningly apologisticalist. Attempting to justify murder ffs. :roll:
 
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Bpool77":3ndpbh9k said:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/marine-who-killed-injured-insurgent-is-named-publicly.22876293

Is it wrong? Or wright?

If you are stupid enough to think voluntary war is a good life choice, you deserve a life sentence anyway.

That aside, the Geneva convention is there for a reason, and he even admitted at the time he'd broken it.

What should worry you is that this incident was only discovered when they were searching the camera for something else. The way he killed the bloke was incredibly casual, as if it was no big deal.
FOOOKIN kool pal and I'm the kind of guy that will do what it takes regardless even though I feel I've been fukd never calmed dole dun my rip struggled but I would all they have to do do is call me. And my pal. And his we don't care mite be wrong but you talk us willing thugs down and we will listen. I might not have finished school but Fuk I've got another 100 who will listen to me tho social media ect and I can hand on heart VOUTCH for a lot of them. This is stupid??? I'm not intelligent enought to do this? Place time hand shake fight x
 
"What about it?"

What's the difference? Why focus on case one more than the other?

It's 'War'. Nasty things happen. To those on both sides. To expect any different is madness.

Meanwhile, Justice must be carried out fairly and equally, be blind and without emotion.

You appear to be very angry over the Woolwich murder, and in favour of dispensing with Justice altogether, in favour of mob-rule vigilantism, and acting according to individual belief and ideology. Which to me, seems rather similar to the actions of both the Woolwich killers, and the British soldier in the case I mentioned.

Interesting that you have very strong views re the Woolwich case, but apparently not so worked up over the other case. Why is that? Care to explain?
 
This is all an incredibly emotive subject, lots of opinions are being expressed at one time, Mijiblob I can see your point about the two cases but in my mind there is a definite difference between the two.

I in no way condone what the Marine did, but to call the 'Taliban Soldier' innocent is stretching a point, as only moments earlier he had been trying to kill the Marines himself, Now just coming out of a battle for their lives on Marine made a drastic decision born out of hatred and adrenaline, he must serve his sentence now for the murder he committed.

The Woolwich pair sat in a car with their weapons ready malice aforethought, waited for an unarmed soldier to walk down a suburban street in a reasonably peaceful city, then ran Trooper Rigby down and slaughtered him in the name of their God. I personally don't think God had anything to do with what they did at all, it was hate pure and simple, you don't think it is a coincidence that all these 'Jihadists' are disaffected young men and women who live on the peripheral of society do you ? They are willing pawns so let them be sacrificed as such...

Now on a more sensible note, it seems to me that everyone thinks that bring back the death penalty will cause wholesale slaughter and the gallows will be back on Tyburn hill in no time at all, what utter rubbish!

This debate on here shows the complexities of such cases and the divisions they cause, we in this country have had nuclear weapons for nearly 60 years thankfully we have never had to use them, but I sleep better at night knowing we have them just in case, as they are now a fact of life and we can't get rid of them. I knew when I was at school the cane was always a possibility if I did wrong, I never did enough wrong to get caned, very close but never quite. Having the death penalty doesn't mean we have to use it willy nilly but in extreme cases we might have to use it as the ultimate punishment.

'I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it'
 
Problem with your nuke example is that they're literally useless. There's no way to let one of those off without making it worse for ourselves.

And I don't think there's any situation where you could "need" the death penalty, either. You can stop a someone from being a danger without also stopping their respiration.

It all comes back to: What does it actually achieve? If you give someone the death penalty that means they're already locked up, and if they're already locked up, they can't get up to anything.

Death penalties are a waste of time.
 
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