CUSTOM FRAME...

MadCowKev":2v3ems8x said:
Joe - have you seen the Corratec Bow-Ti design? 8

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Hey kev, yep CORRATECS are very different and a little crazy..

Just been reading MBA'S elevated prototype aarticle from 89.. This eventually became the YETI ULTIMATE.. :roll:

Very, very interesting :idea: LOVE ULTIMATES :wink:

Anyone have any pics of the ELEVATED GECKO GENESIS from around early 90's???

Hopefully this is a pic of the GECKO GENESIS if file not to big..
 

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There are lots of different issues you need to think through before you press the '$$$' button and the advantage of dealing with somebody like Rody is that he is not just a true engineering artist (and there aren't many of those around), but he is also extremely nice to deal with and knows exactly how to go about the decision-taking process.

On the other hand, Bob Jackson Cycles of Leeds will build you a full-custom frame in Reynolds 631 (which is essentially equivalent to Zona) for £395, fillet-brazed and hand-painted in whatever colour you want. When I asked whether I could specify exactly which tubes they would use and exactly what lengths, they said 'custom means custom' (i.e., yes). So I don't know whether their communications are quite on the silky level of Rody's, but then his basic deal is going to cost you over twice that by the time you've paid shippage and import duties, albeit still competitive with what Roberts charges for a DOGSBOLX. So it really depends on what you want and what you can afford.

One advantage of buying from the US is that they have some fantastic painters over there. If you like sloping top tubes, howsabout this little number? [And for anybody who thinks powdercoating is a crude industrial covering process, maybe this'll make you think again?]
 

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Nice...

Now that is what im talking about 8)

Cloud 9 hey?

Ive basically trawled the internet for ideas and have a basic idea what i want...Also it has to be perfectly functionable and ridable..

One of the nicest frames ive ridden is a custom CURTLO 24HR...It just feels so right :D But to be honest this is what handmade frames should feel like...

I have a SYCIP/MOUNTAIN GOAT and throwing a leg over it is like riding a lifelong friend..And i mean that from cycling point of view :shock:

So i want that same feel but with a different look/appearance if possible...

And as i mentioned i have free reign with design...The builder is confident and ambitious :D
 
In my book, unless your requirements differ from what you can get in an off-the-peg frame, you’d be crazy to spend a huge pile of cash on a custom frame. Custom just means designed for a specific individual, so you wouldn’t expect a custom bike necessarily to feel particularly good to anybody else. So logically most custom frames should be fairly non-standard in some respect, otherwise why go custom? I know a custom builder’s welds may be aesthetically pleasing, but Taiwanese factories are extremely competent these days, and I don’t believe there’s any inherent dynamic advantage in a hand-welded or brazed frame over a factory TIG-welded frame.

I know a custom builder will be able to offer you precise fit, but again I don’t believe there’s a lot in this. Provided you know what you need, and buy an off-the-peg frame with the right length top tube, most people can fine tune the fit perfectly well by varying the length/layback of the seatpost, the position of the saddle, the length/rise of stem and the rise (if any) of the bars. But I suppose if you don’t know what fit you need, maybe then you need to pay someone to tell you.

So in my view if you need an 853 frame in the shape of a Jamis Dragon, you might as well buy an 853 Jamis Dragon. But if you want/need a non-standard shape of frame or a non-standard paint job or you don’t know what you need, that’s why you’d go custom. So I think the first step is to define in your own mind precisely what it is about your personal needs/wants that differs from what the off-the-peg market already provides, and work from there.
 
Straight liners

Curves are so dated... 8)

Mr K
 

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How about a Bontrager E-stay with ovalized and gusseted tubes stylie kind of a frame.
Added later as Scant was right about: forward facing seatpost clamp, Xtra bottle cage mounts (not the Yeti style), fulllength cableguides and Breezer dropouts.
 

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I'd go for something like the cloud 9.

My spec would be like this:
Frame set up for 100mm (to maybe a "short" 130mm) fork
1 1/8" headset
Disc mounts (probably ISO)
Eccentric Bottom Bracket (for those moments of singlespeed madness)
cable guides suitable for full length outers (or hydraulic disc brakes)
Breezeout dropouts
Bottle cage mounts
Crud catcher mounts under the downtube (obviously)
Anti-chainsuck plate
Wishbone seatstays (like on a DeKerf)
Longish toptube (about 23" for me) to allow plenty of reach but a short stem.
71 degree head angle, 73 degree seat tube angle
at least 11", but no more than 12 1/2" bottom bracket height
 
How about this?
 

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