Could GB learn from the USA?
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silverclaws
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Reading the comments below, it seems they have the same problems as we have in the UK disgruntlement about the fact that cyclists do not contribute to the roads, although in the UK they do if they pay community charge. But they also have the same problem with infrastructure and the definition of it despite the amount of space they have got compared to us so we can see, it's not a space problem, it is in attitude problem with the planners and perhaps the law. Perhaps the truth of it over there is like here, which is hit and miss, almost half hearted in the desire to accomodate cyclists as any news report can paint whatever picture it likes.
silverclaws
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MikeD":bx6tkeqi said:
I know this is Retrobike, but being subject to taxes abolished in 1993 seems a bit enthusiastic
Whatever it is called now, but poll tax as many know it still today, the tax each household has to pay to their local council for services, fire, police, street lighting roads etc .
silverclaws
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So in effect those that pay the council tax are paying for the roads so whether they be cyclists or car drivers, they have every right to use them and this important piece of information needs to be circulated and reinforced to shut the grumpy disgruntled motorists up and as to their ''road tax'' they think they pay, let them know if they can make their vehicles emission free, they don't have to pay the tax either.
But there is another option for the grumpy, it's called getting your money's worth and that can be done by getting a bicycle or a tricycle and using it on the roads in lieu of the car when one really doesn't need the hauling capacity to get from one place to another.
So far this week, I have avoided using my car, it has in this lovely weather we have been having of late, cycling where I need to go and somehow managed to rack up thirty odd miles yesterday just going into town, doing what I needed to do then just pootling around going where i felt like going as cycling was a pleasure. ( town is 6 miles away by road, a half mile as the crow flies)
But there is another option for the grumpy, it's called getting your money's worth and that can be done by getting a bicycle or a tricycle and using it on the roads in lieu of the car when one really doesn't need the hauling capacity to get from one place to another.
So far this week, I have avoided using my car, it has in this lovely weather we have been having of late, cycling where I need to go and somehow managed to rack up thirty odd miles yesterday just going into town, doing what I needed to do then just pootling around going where i felt like going as cycling was a pleasure. ( town is 6 miles away by road, a half mile as the crow flies)
silverclaws
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The names change so often whenever a new initiative demands, but the essence is the same, we all pay for what we are using, so it really would help if those that tax us educated the moaning motorists that everyone who pays the council tax has the right to use the roads and no one has anymore right over anyone else..
Oh and the commonly known but incorrect term ''road tax'' is actually called VED and is about the vehicle, not the fact that it goes on roads, the vehicle is being taxed and it doesn't have to go on the road, but by being taxed, it can, mind it can also if it's not taxed, but then one runs the risk of being caught by the agents of the taxation bodies as those that tax always want your money, the more the better.
Oh and the commonly known but incorrect term ''road tax'' is actually called VED and is about the vehicle, not the fact that it goes on roads, the vehicle is being taxed and it doesn't have to go on the road, but by being taxed, it can, mind it can also if it's not taxed, but then one runs the risk of being caught by the agents of the taxation bodies as those that tax always want your money, the more the better.
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