Mansfield centre buddy, saints do look nice I was going to have some on my downhill bike before I got rid of it. But they will weight a fair bit, I always thought the deores looked quite nice with them being in black. To be fairI never user the little ring infact recently I only use the big un lol. If your cool with the middleburns looks wise I'd say go for a set I've heard nothing but good things about them and thats from people into XC, dirt jumping, trials and even a few of the downhill clan. Never owned a set before myself as I like my cooks too much, but I rate middleburn rings really nicely made.