Another frame what is it? 1970s Holdsworth? Mercian? Denton?
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The more I look into this, the more intrigued I've become. There are some distinctive features here
The circular cross section chainstays without a dimple for chainring clearance. Almost all frames seem to have dimples?
Seat tube pump peg eyes
Brazed on BB mounted FD cable guide that 'bends around the corner'. I thought this was damaged when I first saw it - now I realise that it's supposed to be like that!
Learning a lot about the subtleties of frame design
HW
The more I look into this, the more intrigued I've become. There are some distinctive features here
The circular cross section chainstays without a dimple for chainring clearance. Almost all frames seem to have dimples?
Seat tube pump peg eyes
Brazed on BB mounted FD cable guide that 'bends around the corner'. I thought this was damaged when I first saw it - now I realise that it's supposed to be like that!
Learning a lot about the subtleties of frame design
HW
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Good spot!
I keep getting drawn back to Holdsworth (or rather the frames produced for and by them and the other companies they owned). But no frame has all the same features as mine.
Nice looking frame by the way
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HW
anidel":1uln8e6l said:Not all had dimples, mine doesn't
Good spot!
I keep getting drawn back to Holdsworth (or rather the frames produced for and by them and the other companies they owned). But no frame has all the same features as mine.
Nice looking frame by the way
.HW
Re: Another frame what is it? 1970s Holdsworth? Mercian?
It was built up into a beautifully full bike recently
https://www.flickr.com/photos/anidel/se ... 692675805/
Maybe other Holdsworth had that type of seat stays though.
It was built up into a beautifully full bike recently
https://www.flickr.com/photos/anidel/se ... 692675805/
Maybe other Holdsworth had that type of seat stays though.
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Lovely build. I'm not normally a Shimano enthusiast, but those Golden Arrow brakes look periodish and obviously have the right drop for what might be 700c wheels?
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anidel":wfv0kb59 said:It was built up into a beautifully full bike recently
https://www.flickr.com/photos/anidel/se ... 692675805/
Maybe other Holdsworth had that type of seat stays though.
Lovely build. I'm not normally a Shimano enthusiast, but those Golden Arrow brakes look periodish and obviously have the right drop for what might be 700c wheels?
HW
Re: Another frame what is it? 1970s Holdsworth? Mercian?
Yes indeed.
They fit perfectly the bike and those brakes do have the right length indeed for the 700c wheels I put on them.
I think the frame was built for 700c wheels anyway, as the mudguard fits with just enough clearance.
Thanks for your kind words on the build!
Yes indeed.
They fit perfectly the bike and those brakes do have the right length indeed for the 700c wheels I put on them.
I think the frame was built for 700c wheels anyway, as the mudguard fits with just enough clearance.
Thanks for your kind words on the build!
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Possible breakthrough! Might this be a 1970s Denton?
I have one already from the 80s and it has the same chunky seatstays and no dimple on the chainstays although the other details don't match (it's a later frame). No BB serial on mine either.
BUT I've just found an expired eBay auction for a Denton with frame number 323889. This is the only frame number I've encountered in a LOT of searching that seems to follow a similar format to this 'mystery' frame. This auction is for a 653 frame that is claimed to have been bought in 1991 (so the idea that the last 2 digits may indicate the year of manufacture seems to hold true; thanks Old Ned). Serial no for my frame is 332875.
Off to look for more Denton pics/details.
HW
Possible breakthrough! Might this be a 1970s Denton?
I have one already from the 80s and it has the same chunky seatstays and no dimple on the chainstays although the other details don't match (it's a later frame). No BB serial on mine either.
BUT I've just found an expired eBay auction for a Denton with frame number 323889. This is the only frame number I've encountered in a LOT of searching that seems to follow a similar format to this 'mystery' frame. This auction is for a 653 frame that is claimed to have been bought in 1991 (so the idea that the last 2 digits may indicate the year of manufacture seems to hold true; thanks Old Ned). Serial no for my frame is 332875.
Off to look for more Denton pics/details.
HW
Re: Another frame what is it? 1970s Holdsworth? Mercian?
Hilary Stone has a Denton, Mercian Built on sale:
http://www.hilarystone.com/frameset6.html
Hilary Stone has a Denton, Mercian Built on sale:
http://www.hilarystone.com/frameset6.html
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Thanks: I saw that.
Perhaps originalshinkicker will see this thread and comment?
HW
Perhaps originalshinkicker will see this thread and comment?
HW
