99 Hei Hei

i dont think it would work - the tube wall is too thick and the overall tube shape too stiff to allow the dent to be popped out whereas a car panel is more flexible - probably 0.6 - 0.8mm steel (or alu) plate.
 
dom_k":3bpy1q36 said:
i dont think it would work - the tube wall is too thick and the overall tube shape too stiff to allow the dent to be popped out whereas a car panel is more flexible - probably 0.6 - 0.8mm steel (or alu) plate.
Well that's my point really - I don't know the Hei Hei's tubing offhand, but my Kilauea's top tube is a 0.7/0.4/0.7. OK it's a diiferent kind of steel and that may be crucial, but it's thinner than the car panel that you're quoting. I just wonder if anybody's tried it. They do have massive magnets though, those guys!
 
dookie":26ocy3i2 said:
Anthony":26ocy3i2 said:
...OK it's a diiferent kind of steel and that may be crucial...
indeed!
(psst...anthony, the hei hei is titanium.)
Very funny. Well not, actually, pretty lame.

I believe a typical ti plain-gauge tube is c0.9mm thick - i.e., ti is softer than steel. The deal is that a 34.9 x 0.9 ti tube has roughly the same strength and stiffness as a 28.6 x 0.7-0.4-0.7 high-end steel tube. But nevertheless, the ti tube is c10% lighter, even though there is so much more metal there in volume terms - which implies that ti is much less dense. So my (uneducated) guess is that ti might be easier to 'ping back' than steel. Just a guess though. Do you know better?
 
no harm intended...

but i do know that ti is definitely a different kind of steel, which was the point.

wall thickness? density? leave it to the ME's. i also know that ti has a significantly higher strength-to-weight ratio, plastic deformation threshold, and corrosion resistance...PDT being most relevant to the 'dent removal' theory.

mine is an undented ti king kahuna.
 
I've worked with titanium on occasion when I used to service aircraft and it most definitely is not softer than steel. I've had to drill and file the stuff and it is unbelievably tough and hard. Steel by comparison is a piece of p1ss to work with.
:)
 
stevek":af7hah5m said:
I've worked with titanium on occasion when I used to service aircraft and it most definitely is not softer than steel. I've had to drill and file the stuff and it is unbelievably tough and hard. Steel by comparison is a piece of p1ss to work with.
:)
Sounds like my little scheme wouldn't work then! Not on ti anyway.
 
It was a good idea though :) . Wouldn't it be great if you could push it out from the inside? The problem is it's really difficult to gain access from within to push the dent out, I was sorta thinking of access via the headtube but it looks like a no no and how you would exert enough pressure against the dent I don't know. Shame :( .

You can pull soft dents out of car bodywork with suction cups but that wouldn't work here either, also drilling and using a slide hammer with attachment to pull dents out but that would be ridiculous here! :lol:

Didn't sell then. Quite a few lookers but no takers.
 
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