1993 Specialized S-Works Steel

Had a test ride on one of these back in 1993 when it was new and thought wow what a nice ride, think its was for sale at £1000
 
Wonderful bike!
Someone knows the diferences between the sworks frames and the stumpies ones? Both look identical apart from colour but are they made with the same tange prestige tubing, and both welded un Japan?
 
Many thanks but.... apart of the stem, fork, we have the same dia compe Ahead set, same investment cast seat collar, low temperature brazed vertical dropouts... look o be the same frame .... As the M2 are..

I have made a quick investigation: the tubes thckness mentioned in the S-Works Ccatalog are the standards ones for Tange Prestige tubing.

In the 1991 specialized Catalog, the same Mark Dinucci is mentioned as the inventor of the SFS, Specialized Frame Sytem and direct drive, with is one tubing as said S-Work.

Perhaps i need to call him!!!
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Many thanks but.... apart of the stem, fork, we have the same dia compe Ahead set, same investment cast seat collar, low temperature brazed vertical dropouts... look o be the same frame .... As the M2 are..

I have made a quick investigation: the tubes thckness mentioned in the S-Works Ccatalog are the standards ones for Tange Prestige tubing.

In the 1991 specialized Catalog, the same Mark Dinucci is mentioned as the inventor of the SFS, Specialized Frame Sytem and direct drive, with is one tubing as said S-Work.

Perhaps i need to call him!!!
Agreed, very little extra info in the S-works catalogues of that era, which border just on marketing blurb rather than useful data.
Reading throughout the catalogues and trying to pick on any nuances of the descriptions there is nothing to really further clarify this. The specs show they are very similar frames if not identical but there was the option to fit them with entirely your own customer build and race spec.

If anyone knows any more then please comment. Perhaps this deserves its own thread. @Neko would know wrt M2 frames if there is any difference between S-Works vs Standard.
 
One of these turned up on market place a few years back with Rc35's no wheels & looked like it'd been in someone's loft for years, it was pretty battered but really cheap, messaged the seller who said it was her Dad's bike, told her to research it's value & get back to me with a price (I didn't want to rob it) Never heard back & the ad got pulled 😔
 
I may be out to lunch here... but if my 55 yo memory serves me correct....

I sold Specialized in 1991 and 1992... and from what I recall the big difference between the S-Works steel and standard steel Stumpy was the S-Works frames were all hand made in the USA (please feel free to correct me if I am wrong).

Other than that, they (91/92) came with Suntour XC Pro MD groupos which helped to bring the weight down. They were beautiful bikes.

I still have a 1992 steel Stumpy with a custom made Ritchey Logic fork on her that I have owned since 1996 and just could never part with. They ride wonderfully, are amazing XC bikes and versatile in pretty much all terrain. A fellow mechanic back in the day had his 1991, re-wielded to have the cable routing all moved to the top tube and extra mounts for waterbottle cage (bottom of down tube) and forks got mounts for front racks - He made it into a killing touring/commuting rig.
 
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