1986 Harry Hall All Terrain, yes all of it.

[kaya]

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That's lovely glad its gone to a good home, I would have bid on it if it was closer.

It looks very much like my 86 kili flyer, I know the parts box for frame builders was small but...

There are a few small differences my kili has portage mounts, different rear canti mount but the same cable holder and rack/mud mounts.

Here's a pic of when it first arrived and probably the best pic of the bike, if you click on the pic it takes you to the album with some close ups.

 

[kingbling]

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Is it possible both frames were made by autostrada engineering as they have a very similar appearance ?

 

[legrandefromage]

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<strokes white pussy CAT> Innnnnteresssssting!

I'll be honest and will say that I thought it looked vaguely familiar with the double cable guide but didnt give it much more thought as <deep breath> its got a crack...

The seller has been very nice about it and offered a whole refund but as the parts and forks have value, I've only accepted a token amount. I'll have a chat with a frame builder to see whats what.

Heres a similar sized Flyer, I would say they are one and the same and confirms 'built for' HH rather than built by.

 

[xxnick1975]

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oh balls, hope it's a simple repair as it's much too nice to write off

 

[andyz]

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I ought to have one of those Harry Hall bikes, I was born a stone's throw away from the shop! Very nice, a proper bike.

Interesting company history, what with his son murdering his wife in a French chateau!

 

[Leighcal]

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Nice looking steed, there's something I really like about these forks on your bike.
Looks like a good little project for the rainy days we're bound to have around the corner!

Leigh

 

[legrandefromage]

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My local framebuilder says that 531 can be welded but it is better braised. The crack is a crack but it isnt going anywhere which is a relief but its still something to keep an eye on.

It has road stays and a road head tube plus unusual BB shell configuration: sockets and welded.

Lots of wonky braise-ons!

- for you frame builder fans that is.

Am cleaning everything and have just about a full MT-60 groupset to install later

 

[enc]

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I'm sure you know but Harry hall are a Manchester based based bike shop ... Still in existence but no longer producing frames !! As s result of the Manchester bombing they moved around a fair bit in the last few years ... Now based on whitworth st in the city centre. Give them a call they maybe able to give you'd one info on the bike !?

 

[andyz]

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Where is the crack? And whats wrong with the existing group set?

 

[legrandefromage]

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The crack is in the seat cluster where one of the stays joins the lug. The frame buildery bloke says its unlikely to get any worse as it is supported by the insertion of the seatpost and once thats clamped up, its not going anywhere.

The original shifters need topcaps, the mechs are ok, the chainset is ok, the BB is shot and it is missing the original lever and cantis.