Holdsworth frame and wheelset identification

[Foreigner]

Any idea what model/year could it be - possibly 1946 as 4 digit number 6870 matching on a steerer tube? Also wheelset - could these be their own hubs? Look very much like Hardens with that oil nipple, alas no and no marking on them either. 96/105mm OLN

Any info would e much appreciated.

 

[juvela]

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spokes are Union Frondenberg (DE)

hubs: you could check to see if cones, locknuts, axle threads be metric or BSC

possible lubrication fittings are add-ons, think it unlikely but wish only to mention possibility


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[Nob]

They look like Campagnolo large flange track hubs from the 60’s

 

[Foreigner]

They look like Campagnolo large flange track hubs from the 60’s

I'm pretty sure they would have some form of branding on them if Campagnolo - yet to see a hub without

 

[Nob]

I'm pretty sure they would have some form of branding on them if Campagnolo - yet to see a hub without

Tend to agree unless they’ve kind of faded away…… I did think at first they maybe Airlite hubs as they were similar..but the hub make up is different near the axles..

 

[Foreigner]

Most probably British - 32/40 spoke count, Italians were usually 36/36. Oil nipple looks like Harden - pic below - and so does the overall shape to me. But if I remember correctly Holdsworth did also their own hubs called Allez - never seen one or image of it either...

 

[Canuk]

Pre Campagnolo: FB, Fratello Brivio. I've got a LF set of these from the 1950s with grease nipple. Like very similar

 

[Canuk]

They're definitely not any version, era of Airlite, I'm thinking non British.

 

[Foreigner]

They're definitely not any version, era of Airlite, I'm thinking non British.

32/40 spokes - I'm convinced not FB as I never seen one piece hub from them. Mine look like exact copy of Harden, at least body and oil nipple comparing the two images - need to put one apart to check internals and compare those too.