Bottom bracket newbie question

[Jimmy2021]

Sorry if I'm asking a stupid question but I'm at my new project (thread coming soon) and the bottom bracket supplied with the frame is wobbly (Shimano BB UN72)
Get a new one, you say...
Yes, however both cups are right threaded (clockwise to tighten).
How are they called?
Italian?
French?
What's the best place to get one without breaking the bank?
Thanks

 

[bikeworkshop]

Should say on the bb what it is.
Italian is quite common, 70mm shell width.
You can always measure the axle width too.

I don't think shimano made any French bbs, and they are rare, unless you're in a French Brocante looking at €10 bikes
But they definitely wont have a un72 in them

VP make inexpensive but quite good bbs.
If there's a risk is going to break the bank, the bank must be very small and fragile

 

[Jimmy2021]

Sorry, forgot to add pictures.
The BB and the frame, in case it helps

 

[Jimmy2021]

Something like this?
Doesn't say if cups are left or right threads.
Or italian means just that?

https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en...KPSsOrT5jEiFviQi2zD97wjYZOrY2dXxoCyooQAvD_BwE

 

[Mace4130]

Scapin are an Italian company, so it could be an Italian bottom bracket.
If the shell of the frame is 70mm, it’s Italian threaded.
If both cups are right hand threaded, it’s Italian.

 

[Jimmy2021]

Scapin are an Italian company, so it could be an Italian bottom bracket.
If the shell of the frame is 70mm, it’s Italian threaded.
If both cups are right hand threaded, it’s Italian.

Yes, both cups are right threaded and bb is 70mm.
I have another identical bottom bracket with drive side left threaded.
Can both cups be removed so I can use the one from the italian one?
Or, where do I buy a reasonably priced square tapered italian bb?

 

[bikeworkshop]

Yes, both cups are right threaded.
I have another identical bottom bracket with drive side left threaded.
Can both cups be removed so I can use the one from the italian one?
Or, where do I buy a reasonably priced square tapered italian bb?

Italian bb cups are wider than bsa, so a rh bsa doesn't fit in an Italian shell.

VP make inexpensive but quite good bbs.

Ask your lbs to get one in for you.

 

[benjabbi]

Yes, you can knock the cartridge out of the cup on a UN-72 and re use your Italian cups on it. The actual cartridge is identical. It's just the cups that differ.

 

[legrandefromage]

Original cups plus new or old UN72 replacement will work

 

[legrandefromage]

I have a frame with a good UN72 in it, I will see if I can get it out of the frame