very nice, lusted after many an orange at stif back in the day. (Before they had a boutique up the road in Headingley. Used to ride with the stif boys too, was a member of Leeds students alternative cyclists. Did some good urban riding - main route finder was the editor of MBi - who was? Was about the same time I got my Pace fetish... Who didn't read MBUK looking at the stif advert working out prices for custom orange builds?)