Midlife":15bp669j said:Looking at my 70's Avatar there is a mix of Campag, Shimano, Suzue, Sugino, Tange, Kyokuoto.........and the rest
SNight":3czlmom2 said:Old Ned":3czlmom2 said:SNight":3czlmom2 said:Midlife, you've just made me think actually, as a reply to tel saying it being "off the peg", Id imagine that it wasnt an off the peg frame as C&G mentioned that the seat stays were engraved before the frame was essembled, so id assume the frame was made up as a special order?? I may be wrong.Midlife":3czlmom2 said:Wouldn't that Walvale have ben supplied as a frame only? if so then people would have been free to fit whatever they liked or could afford....
Shaun
So midlife may be correct in saying that the who ever the frame was intended for had the choice of which components to fit?
More than likely. People fitted what they wanted, was available - or could afford! BITD there was no slavishly fitting exact 'groupsets'. Most bikes were a mish-mash of different brands and levels. Can't remember who it was that built Walvale frames (Bill Whitcomb?)
Norman Roberts was the frame builder. The bloke I spoke to at C&G (should have got his name, he was really helpfull) says he is still building the odd frame, although he has not been in the best of health recently, and that he would probably still know who he built it for if he told him the details of the frame!
El Juli":1uvcsif2 said:When my friends and I bought or build in the mid-eighties we never used full groupsets, we always mixed what we liked or could afford. I had a bike with different flavours of Shimano, my closest friend rode Campagnolo Victory cranks with Mavic rear derailleur and shift levers, ultegra brakeset...
I recently bought a Koga Miyata, they came out of the factory with a lot of different componentes.
To me a full groupset its not very 'real'