Hartmann mystery bike (klein copy?)

[maskim.ms]

Found this mystery bike on marketplace, groupset is deore xt, can someone recognise year or model?

 

[Mod-Master]

Maybe one for @joglo

 

[kingoffootball]

Possibly a Wildcat?

 

[joglo]

Maybe one for @joglo

just can provide some Ads and pics but no model name.


The model from the lower picture looks at least similar oversized and show color variants include also fancy effect paints.

The page below is from an 1994 brochure, again with an frame very close to the one from the thread starter.


The Swiss guy Paul Hartmann has designed the iconic RAM with MCK Monocoque, this was build in Italy.
But also rather common bike designs, most likely not designed by him, but standard models, had been sold under his brand.
So, personally i wouldn't question if it's an Hartmann.

I would guess also the aluminum diamond frames are Italian origin. Especially the oversized aluminum frame looks like Oria tubing (most obvious difference to other oversized aluminum frames are the oversized seat stays, but just check the rear drop outs, typically there is an Oria logo).
The 1993 Bianchi Shivar seem to be very close (other than the position of the cable guides at the top tube). It came also with same nice oversized fork.

 

[maskim.ms]

just can provide some Ads and pics but no model name.

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The model from the lower picture look at least similar oversized and show color variants include also fancy effect paints.

The page below is from an 1994 brochure, again with an frame very close to the one from the thread starter.
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The Swiss guy Paul Hartmann has designed the iconic RAM with MCK Monocoque, this was build in Italy.
But also rather common bike designs, most likely not designed by him, but standard models, had been sold under his brand.
So, personally i wouldn't question if it's an Hartmann.

I would guess also the aluminum diamond frames are Italian origin. Especially the oversized aluminum frame looks like Oria tubing (most obvious difference to other oversized aluminum frames are the oversized and seat stays, but just check the rear drop outs, typically there is an Oria logo).
The 1993 Bianchi Shivar seem to be very close (other than the position of the cable guides at the top tube). It came also with same nice oversized fork.
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wow, thanks!, looks indeed pretty similar to bianchi.

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