Chopper the ex Copper
Alpinestars Fan
I don't know when the practice began but today just about no one quotes the weight of a ready to ride bike, except Giant who recognise that with different frame sizes etc its pretty meaningless so don't list weights at all. When people say " I'm fitted cos my newly restored Marin Beaver Gully weighs 33lbs but the 1992 catalogue says 2oz" they needn't worry because odds are the weight quoted isn't what the buyer would ride out the shop on.