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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:58 pm 
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how much is a karpiel armagedden with super monsters worth
it aslo has magura gustac brakes hope big un rear hub old xtr cranks etc an new nokian gazza 3 in tyres


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:01 pm 
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dan28 wrote:
how much is a karpiel armagedden with super monsters worth
it aslo has magura gustac brakes hope big un rear hub old xtr cranks etc an new nokian gazza 3 in tyres

The Super Monster, if in primo condition, will be pretty much whatever you ask for it but US$300 at a minimum I'd reckon. Anyway post up a pic of that bad boy, sounds all kitted out for the Redbull Rampage!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:47 pm 
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Thinking of selling my Dekerf SST but don't really know what to ask as a whole bike? It's a 17.5 / 18" disc only R853 in custom Guinness Brown with orange decals and maple leaf wishbone detail rear stay. Comes with mango Chris King ISO on DT Swiss wheels with Continental Mountain King tyres, Avid Jucy Ultimate disc brakes, SRAM XO shifters and mech (XT front), Middleburn Duo chainset, hub matching mango Chris King no threadset, Thomson elite X4 stem and layback post, charge spoon ti saddle, Ritchey WCS carbon bar and Pace RC31 C Type carbon and ti forks. Top condition as per the pics:

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=9 ... AJDVSUuiws

I know it's worth more in bits, but what's the ballpark for the whole machine?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:44 pm 
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LDP wrote:
Thinking of selling my Dekerf SST but don't really know what to ask as a whole bike? It's a 17.5 / 18" disc only R853 in custom Guinness Brown with orange decals and maple leaf wishbone detail rear stay. Comes with mango Chris King ISO on DT Swiss wheels with Continental Mountain King tyres, Avid Jucy Ultimate disc brakes, SRAM XO shifters and mech (XT front), Middleburn Duo chainset, hub matching mango Chris King no threadset, Thomson elite X4 stem and layback post, charge spoon ti saddle, Ritchey WCS carbon bar and Pace RC31 C Type carbon and ti forks. Top condition as per the pics:

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=9 ... AJDVSUuiws

I know it's worth more in bits, but what's the ballpark for the whole machine?


For the whole bike I think you'ld be lucky to clear a thousand. Split would maybe make more.
A rough breakdown:
Frame £500 +50 H/set
Forks £100
Wheels £250-300
Cranks £100
Brakes £100
Gears etc £100
bits £100

Unfortunately the market for 26" ers of this quality is pretty dry.
If you do split, there's one or two bits I wouldn't mind, esp the crankset...


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:28 pm 
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LDP wrote:
Thinking of selling my Dekerf SST but don't really know what to ask as a whole bike? It's a 17.5 / 18" disc only R853 in custom Guinness Brown with orange decals and maple leaf wishbone detail rear stay. Comes with mango Chris King ISO on DT Swiss wheels with Continental Mountain King tyres, Avid Jucy Ultimate disc brakes, SRAM XO shifters and mech (XT front), Middleburn Duo chainset, hub matching mango Chris King no threadset, Thomson elite X4 stem and layback post, charge spoon ti saddle, Ritchey WCS carbon bar and Pace RC31 C Type carbon and ti forks. Top condition as per the pics:

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=9 ... AJDVSUuiws

I know it's worth more in bits, but what's the ballpark for the whole machine?


Gosh...that is nice. What Nick said, wish I could afford that frame


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:27 am 
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I have a wheelset hanging in my cupboard that was the OEM fitment to my 2000/2001 Scwhwinn four banger. I replaced these with a set of Mavic Crossmax rims in an effort to modernise the bike a bit and bring it a little more up to date. Not the usual stuff of RetroBikes I know, but until someone builds a new Lawill frame, I'm just going to have to stick with this...

The hubs are American Novatec units. I'm not familiar with the brand, so I know little about them, but they are very sturdy, and completely rebuildable units hewn from aluminium. They are fitted with easily replaceable sealed bearings sat behind o-ring sealed covers, making bearing longevity measurable on a calander, and servicing a doddle. The axles are straight, and the hubs run very smoothly. The bearings were last replaced in 2011, when I replaced every sealed unit bearing on the bike. They have done very limited miles since then. The hubs are compatible with 6 bolt brake rotors.

The spokes are black, and generally speaking, unmarked, un bent, and in good order/tension. Other than that, I can't tell you great deal about them...

The rims are Alex Rims EVDS25 "Downhill". I can't tell you a great deal about these either, other than they are double walled, have new rim tapes, and are very very strong. They are a lot wider than the new rims I have on the bike, so they are probably well suited to large volume tyres. These are 25mm between the inner faces of the rim flange, compared to the Mavics 19mm. I've run them with 2.5" tyres in the past without issue. The 1.95" tyres on my new wheels look pinched in comparison.

These are also extremely stiff, something I hadn't realised until I tried a different wheelset on this bike. According to the labels on the rim, these are made from 6061-T6 Aluminium, the material of choice for alloy frame builders. They would appear to be welded rather than sleeved, and seem to be a high quality rim. I've certainly seen a lot worse from companies I am familiar with. The rims are compatible with rim vbrakes, but have never been used with such.

The freehub is in good order, has no play, and is practically unmarked from 13 years of use, which just goes to show how gentle I've been with my bike, or at least how I'm not trying hard enough...

Overall, this is a very sturdy set of wheels, that run true and have seen little use. The decals are fading a bit, but everything else looks fine. I have no idea how much they wiegh, but when I compared them to the CrossMax's I installed last night, they weren't the heavyweight lumps I thought they'd be. I fact, I was a little disappointed there wasn't a bigger difference...

Question is, do I sling these in the back of the cupboard and hope maybe I find a use for them one day? Or are they actually worth something to someone?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:34 pm 
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The wheels look really nice, especially the hubs. I think you'll find that they won't fetch much. If memory serves me right, Novatech were one of many names used for joytech hubs. Norco used them branded as something different as did some other companies that I fail to recall now. I suspect you'll get from £60 to £80 with a good wind on Ebay.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:34 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:50 pm 
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Was just wondering how much people think my '99 Sunn Totall UN XC is worth? Everything is standard and original as it came apart from the seat, handle bars and pedals...

Pics on "readers bikes '98 --->" (sorry stupid phone is givin me limited options :/)

Thanks in advance...


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:50 pm 
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i have got a 1998 k2 proflex 4000 in great condidtion and was wondering what it was worth. it has the smart shock on the front not the elastomers.


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