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Hi peeps, new to the site, here's my Ishibashi
http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=227532

Author:  Altronix [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Hi peeps, new to the site, here's my Ishibashi

New to the site and thought I'd say hi, and have a wee show and tell.

Here's my dear old friend, had her for over 16+ years. She's definitely showing her age these days. Trouble is when I get on, I can't help but ride it like I stole it. She eats rush hour traffic and city streets. Got a real nice weight to it, makes jumping it about a joy.

It's a 1980's Ishibashi, I've been trying to find out the model and brand for years with no luck.
I've played the serial number game and found nothing, and I've googled the hell out of the manufacture. So if anyone has any ideas I'd luv to hear.

The most unusual feature is the flat oval frame, top and bottom. It's about 3.5cm deep and 2cm at it's widest.

It came with Dia Compe brakes with an SR headset. The crank and seat have obviously been replaced over the years.

Originally the wheels were luvly orange Bernardi Mozzi Motor 'Free Styler' 6R's, until the cups died, big time.

I dream of restoring it one day, get her a new coat of chrome, she deserves it.

The BMX Museum has only 3 Ishibashi bikes on the books, and none are mine, grrr.

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Author:  Jamiedyer [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Welcome aboard

Welcome aboard!
That looks really cool and used as it should be.
Dont know anything about the Company but would be interested to find out more.
Jamie

Author:  BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:16 pm ]
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The Frame has a little baseball symbol after the serial number - now this means it is a KOIZUMI made frame - they were a very good frame builder and made such frame for Kuwahara, some racing Raleighs, and a few others
so you have a top made frame by a great frame builder

as for the serial number - sorry don't know
maybe around 82-84

the forks are cheaper - you can see that the end caps have been pressed on

so did the original forks move some where else ? as i think a frame like this would of come with some thing like a Tange fork !

so i'm guessing a decent built bike with some good parts - i guess sold more on the eastern side of the world

can't give of find any more info at the mo :roll:

cheers B :wink:

Author:  Altronix [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:38 pm ]
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Hmm, I had been told the baseball symbol was the Ishibashi logo.
But I have seen a few Ishibashi serials and they didn't have any letters involved. So I'm happy to believe it could be Koizumi if you know your logos.

I see what you mean about the forks probably being a replacement. The welding doesn't match the frame and as you point out the end caps are press fitted. They're the forks that were on it when I got it second hand in London, so I've no idea where they got to.

Thanks for the input, most appreciated.

Author:  BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:37 am ]
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Yup Koizumi

Most parts on bmx's were moved around - swapped - broken and bought new - pocket money bought - older brother passing on bmx - some one might of been given the frame as it was early 80's and made up with odd bits

need a couple more pic's - side view of rear drop out - bottom bracket - down tube to brake stays where seat post is - brake stay so we can see the metal tube

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cheers B :wink:

Author:  Altronix [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:38 am ]
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Brilliant, Koizumi it is then.

Really hope these extra shots are what you need.

I'm now getting a wee bit excited that you might nail it once and for all as to what it is.

Altron.

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Author:  monkian [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:07 pm ]
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Very interesting looking bike you got there.
Are you 100% sure it's an Ishibashi?

Author:  Altronix [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:48 pm ]
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No not at all now. I had been wrongly informed on one of the other BMX forums that the baseball logo was Ishibashi.
But now Bendycat has put things straight, and it is definitely a Koizumi frame.
Which is absolutely fine by me, top quality craftsmanship :)

Author:  BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:38 pm ]
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Come on Paul, get yer hooks into what it is :wink:

Altron - get some more pic's up :wink:

Author:  monkian [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:47 pm ]
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:lol: I'm looking into it B but it's got me stumped at the moment.
I've asked the boys over in Australia so might get some joy there.

It'll be worth looking at the brands we know Koizumi built for and go from there.
I guess we can rule out Raleigh & Diamond Back?...

Author:  BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:16 pm ]
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welds look good as they should :wink:

so both top and bottom tubes are the same () ()

Author:  monkian [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:18 pm ]
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Well, I guess we can't rule out Raleigh...
Boys in Oz are pointing towards a Koizumi made MkII Cromo Burner.
Looks good to me...how the hell did we miss that B :roll: :oops:

Author:  BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:40 pm ]
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Paul what might of thrown me is, that in the Raleigh info booklet it has a normal chrome burner dressed as a cromo - it show a little "R" in the rear drop outs
the mark one is a different frame and looks different, but this could be a mk 2 cromo :shock:

can we back it up with any pic's :?

Author:  monkian [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:44 pm ]
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Just stick these pics on BW and let Dave & the boys confirm it.
I'm pretty sure it's a good shout though :D

Author:  BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:42 am ]
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posted - but i can only see one there, but it does look like it :wink:

so mk 2 cromo burner :wink:

but will wait for confirmation :wink:

Author:  Altronix [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:13 am ]
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Yep both tubes are the same, flat oval.

Are you meaning the mk2 Raleigh Burner? Similar but a few differences there.

I can do more photo's, any bits in particular?

Alt.

Author:  Altronix [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:30 am ]
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This version of the Burner is the same as mine for sure.

All the small detail is right: the dropouts, tubular bracket for the rear brake, the seat stays, and the oval tube.

http://bmxsociety.com/topic/51319-19858 ... r-koizumi/

Author:  BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:58 am ]
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Looks the same as Dave's ride there :wink:

Author:  Altronix [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:18 pm ]
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Interesting story how I actually got hold of this bike.

I was working in London as a kid on a building site. The office and restroom area was a temporary setup in the buildings basement carpark.

At the time I was riding around on a pretty basic Marin road bike I'd adopted for nothing of a friend who had moved away.
I'd left it down in the basement unlocked [stupid I know, you live and learn], when I've gone down one day to get my lunch the bike had been stolen, but whoever had taken it had left in it's place a small half sized kids BMX, possibly a Raleigh can't remember. It was in mint condition, just way too small for me.

On my journey home I had to pass through Elephant and Castle, where there used to be a brilliant second hand bike shop called 'Recycle'
I'd seen a BMX in there for weeks hanging up and really really fancied it. So I took the new kids BMX I had, and part exchanged it for the one I have now. I'm sure I only paid an extra £40 towards it.

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