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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:35 am 
Dirt Disciple

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Hi Hamster..
Pics are up no not what you are surmising ( :
Looks authentic butr it has been stripped and repainted ..so some doubts exist


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:52 am 
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Frame looks like a Modified Carlton Giro D'italia with the "Victor" seat cluster......... 60's then. Number should be oin the left rear dropout and be a letter (year code) and then the number.

Seat cluster design with it tapering in was a Carlton design and can't think of any copies.

Shaun


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:55 pm 
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On reflection those square brake braze ons look very Mafac like...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:40 pm 
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Looks like the Raleigh 26 tpi octagonal headset, if so was made during the Raleigh period of cheap mass produced bikes, the lugs suggest towards the end.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:39 am 
Dirt Disciple

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MAFAC did make this similar type of brake,but I thought you meant the other type

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hamster wrote:
Are you sure they aren't bosses for the old Mafac brakes that used two bosses?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:51 am 
Dirt Disciple

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That looks like it.

A Carlton Giro D'italia on Photobucket

http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt178/lewismtbnroad/Carlton%20Giro%20d%20italia%201966/CARLTONgiroditalia1966045.jpg

has different brazeons [Carlton style]on the top tube and owner claims it to be orange and white originally.His frame numbers are around the chainwheel side circumference of the BBShell.
I have the LH dropout numbers on mine.
I do not have the rear axle adjusters either.
Headset is different in the P/bucket one.
Midlife wrote:
Frame looks like a Modified Carlton Giro D'italia with the "Victor" seat cluster......... 60's then. Number should be oin the left rear dropout and be a letter (year code) and then the number.

"Seat cluster design with it tapering in was a Carlton design and can't think of any copies."

Shaun


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