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 Post subject: Sachs New Succes MTB
PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:08 pm 
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I have asked about this in the road section but i guess we have to keep these 2 separate

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I do not recall that i ever saw a set myself.
What can you tell me about this group and who is using this?


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 Post subject: Re: Sachs New Succes MTB
PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:30 am 
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Defiant wrote:
I do not recall that i ever saw a set myself.
What can you tell me about this group and who is using this?


I got offered a few sets of NOS derailleurs a few months ago but passed on them.

They look well made though.


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The brake levers and shifters just looked too nasty. They got the shifters right when they renamed it as Quarz. Hubs, cantis and mechs were great pieces of kit.


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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:08 am 
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the groupset in the top 2 pictures is NOS and bought by me this week.
i want to use it, i think it would be nice to use something different for a change .

what i found on the internet is only good things, people seem to like the groupset, well made, and great looks.


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Interesting - I haven't seen those (surely) Sugino-made cranks before. The bottom bracket must be bought in from Kinex in Slovakia, who supply the cheaper models for Campag.


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From what I understand Sachs (now SRAM) bought these parts from external high quality companies.
From what I can find on the Internet these parts are a good quality and absolutely not a cheap made groupset.


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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:20 am 
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Defiant wrote:
From what I understand Sachs (now SRAM) bought these parts from external high quality companies.

Fichtel & Sachs were buying up parts of the French bicycle industry throughout the eighties and nineties, so by the time this group was made, SEDIS (chains), Maillard (hubs and freewheels) and Huret (mechs and shifters) were already part of the Sachs empire.

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From what I can find on the Internet these parts are a good quality and absolutely not a cheap made groupset.

I wasn't intending to imply that the quality was low - although to be fair those aren't the finest cranks Sugino made: Ritchey Logic and Sugino M900 had crisper cold forgings. But Campag made the bottom brackets for the higher groups themselves or bought them from a different source. Kinex only supplied the cheaper models.


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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:46 am 
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No problem ;)


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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:44 am 
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In touring circles the hubs have a great reputation. Good kit overall, let down by lacklustre marketing.


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Build it into a completely european bike, no US or Japanese parts at all! 8)


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