Yeah! and Hell Yeah!

[al]

Original better IMO

Cheers grandad!!

I'd give you a spin in it, But you'll only drop a sticky Worthers original on my seats. Thought you'd be having your afternoon nap at this time?





al.

So you genuinely think that a car retrofitted with a poor copy of Citroen's hydropneumatic suspension system is better than one of the foremost automotive groups in Germany could design?

Nice one!!

My type 3 was designed over 50 years ago, the suspension was designed 80 years ago. It had a torsion beam front end, rear swing axle and drums all round.

It now drives and stops better that it ever could in It's original form. It has almost double the horsepower and has disc brakes, so it can keep up with modern day traffic and can stop when they do!!!

What the hell has Citreon Hydro sus got to do with my car?

al.

 

[grahame]

Good job It's running Airride!!

al.

From what I've read of their site (and others), the Airride system (and others like it) is based on exactly the same principles as the Citroen Hydropneumatic system launched in 1954, but with an air compressor to provide the spring medium and top up leaky "baloons" rather than a hydraulic pump and leakproof, nitrogen filled spheres.

It aims to produce an adjustable suspension system with a rising rate spring, right?

 

[al]

Good job It's running Airride!!

al.

From what I've read of their site (and others), the Airride system (and others like it) is based on exactly the same principles as the Citroen Hydropneumatic system launched in 1954, but with an air compressor to provide the spring medium and top up leaky "baloons" rather than a hydraulic pump and leakproof, nitrogen filled spheres.

It aims to produce an adjustable suspension system with a rising rate spring, right?

Yes It's exactly the same.

Except it has a compressor and is an air system with airshocks not bags. I can control how much lift the car has, so can navigate speed bumps etc... Everything is tucked away out of sight to keep a factory look interior.

Still not sure how it is a poor copy though? The engineering that has gone into my cars suspension is amazing, having been hand fabricated. A cheap copy, I wish!!

al.

al.

 

[grahame]

Where did I say cheap?

What do you mean by airshocks?

Air filled springing medium? If they are not solid walled (ie metal spheres, then they are, effectively balloons.

The Citroen system allows height adjustment (or "lift" as you call it) as stock.

By the way "Hand fabricated" does not necessarily equate to fantastic engineering. When I hear the words "Hand fabricated" I think "We didn't think it through properly beforehand and had to fettle it to make it work."
:twisted:

 

[al]

Where did I say cheap?

What do you mean by airshocks?

Air filled springing medium? If they are not solid walled (ie metal spheres, then they are, effectively balloons.

The Citroen system allows height adjustment (or "lift" as you call it) as stock.

By the way "Hand fabricated" does not necessarily equate to fantastic engineering. When I hear the words "Hand fabricated" I think "We didn't think it through properly beforehand and had to fettle it to make it work."
:twisted:

Bored now!!

al.

 

[lewis1641]

By the way "Hand fabricated" does not necessarily equate to fantastic engineering. When I hear the words "Hand fabricated" I think "We didn't think it through properly beforehand and had to fettle it to make it work."
:twisted:

outch

i'd put my house on the line and say there's nothing in or on al's car that has been fettled to make it work.

maybe the driver?

 

[al]

By the way "Hand fabricated" does not necessarily equate to fantastic engineering. When I hear the words "Hand fabricated" I think "We didn't think it through properly beforehand and had to fettle it to make it work."
:twisted:

outch

i'd put my house on the line and say there's nothing in or on al's car that has been fettled to make it work.

maybe the driver?

The money's in the post.

I think the people that spent hundreds of hours working on my cars would love the "didn't think it through" comment.

The fact said poster, owns some tasty hand fab'ed bicycles, I would have thought he would have understood my passion for old classic metal. Still I think it may have been the tongue in cheek Grandad comment that had him dancing on his keyboard.

Although the fact he seems to have a passion for French cars, may explain a lot.

al, still smiling!

ps What do you mean the bloody driver? Why I orta!!!