Light bikes are NOT faster?????
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suburbanreuben
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"And provided I don't buy any more bikes, (cycilng) is a cost effective way to travel"... 
silverclaws
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That will upset the weight weenies.
Anyway I always went on the momentum principle, get the thing moving then let the weight do the rest.
The only time I want less weight, is when I have to sling the thing on my shoulder and carry the bugger.
Anyway I always went on the momentum principle, get the thing moving then let the weight do the rest.
The only time I want less weight, is when I have to sling the thing on my shoulder and carry the bugger.
silverclaws
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The article is correct though, it is not the bike, but the fitness of the rider.
But for things like commuting moving quicker means nothing, as everyone runs the gamble of traffic and traffic signals, unless one is one of those tits that use the road but ignore the signals and road regulations.
As an experiment years ago, I used to drive from Carterton in Oxfordshire to St Helens in Merseyside every friday evening, keen to get home the order of the day was boot down and go for it, sod economy, but sometimes I drove more moderately, so I did a personal survey over a year, and I found there was very little to be gained over a four hour drive by going fast, it worked out at best, fifteen minutes between risking your neck and driving at the limits of the law. So speed, I am just not interested in any more, get there when I get there.
But one thing is for certain, I can get into town quicker on my bike than I can using the bus.
But for things like commuting moving quicker means nothing, as everyone runs the gamble of traffic and traffic signals, unless one is one of those tits that use the road but ignore the signals and road regulations.
As an experiment years ago, I used to drive from Carterton in Oxfordshire to St Helens in Merseyside every friday evening, keen to get home the order of the day was boot down and go for it, sod economy, but sometimes I drove more moderately, so I did a personal survey over a year, and I found there was very little to be gained over a four hour drive by going fast, it worked out at best, fifteen minutes between risking your neck and driving at the limits of the law. So speed, I am just not interested in any more, get there when I get there.
But one thing is for certain, I can get into town quicker on my bike than I can using the bus.
im forever beating the bus, i love it!
i got the bus the other week, i felt like holding onto the bar on the seat and steering like a handlebar :shock:
its like quicker/faster - more energy , slower/longer - less energy
they cancel/balance each other out really
i got the bus the other week, i felt like holding onto the bar on the seat and steering like a handlebar :shock:
its like quicker/faster - more energy , slower/longer - less energy
they cancel/balance each other out really
silverclaws
Senior Retro Guru
Exactly, nothing to be gained by speed except having to think faster, draw more air in, which laden with carcinogenic diesel fumes and cleaner petrol fumes.
And there my personal suspicion at the rise in lung cancer, it is not the tobacco smokers who are being blamed, but the rise in diesel engined vehicles, because a study was done comparing the 1950s when just about everyone smoked, even in hospitals and the present, when it is considered almost illegal to smoke anywhere, the results were such that in the 1950's there was less lung cancer, but now we have more, so something isn't computing here, but one thing is for sure, nearly every other car is a diesel, whereas in the 1950's, it was commercial vehicles, and not many of them, because petrol was far cheaper. It is simple really, who are governments less inclined to piss off, the tobacco industries, or the petro chemical indusries.
But one thing I do know, diesel contains at least four known carcinogens, and we are breathing it all the time, it is everywhere, just look for that black dust in your house, the dust is there, you are breathing it.
The buses are the dirtiest diesels around, so if you commute, wear a respro mask or similar, as in traffic, I would say one is not getting any healthier, one is getting worse, by breathing in more air than normal, air laden with fumes.
As it is with me, when I cycle into town, less than a mile away as the crow flies, there is water between town and me, so it's six miles around, cut down to four miles due to a cross country route until I hit the Billacombe road and Laira bridge and the traffic disaster there.
And there my personal suspicion at the rise in lung cancer, it is not the tobacco smokers who are being blamed, but the rise in diesel engined vehicles, because a study was done comparing the 1950s when just about everyone smoked, even in hospitals and the present, when it is considered almost illegal to smoke anywhere, the results were such that in the 1950's there was less lung cancer, but now we have more, so something isn't computing here, but one thing is for sure, nearly every other car is a diesel, whereas in the 1950's, it was commercial vehicles, and not many of them, because petrol was far cheaper. It is simple really, who are governments less inclined to piss off, the tobacco industries, or the petro chemical indusries.
But one thing I do know, diesel contains at least four known carcinogens, and we are breathing it all the time, it is everywhere, just look for that black dust in your house, the dust is there, you are breathing it.
The buses are the dirtiest diesels around, so if you commute, wear a respro mask or similar, as in traffic, I would say one is not getting any healthier, one is getting worse, by breathing in more air than normal, air laden with fumes.
As it is with me, when I cycle into town, less than a mile away as the crow flies, there is water between town and me, so it's six miles around, cut down to four miles due to a cross country route until I hit the Billacombe road and Laira bridge and the traffic disaster there.
are you round mt batten way?
i have been planning on getting a mask as i personally notice the fumes (it doesnt affect me noticeably, but you can just tell, different 'flavour' smoke etc. compared to fresher air where i live)
just need to get round to it
i didnt know the cancer studies were in the 50's :shock:
i have been planning on getting a mask as i personally notice the fumes (it doesnt affect me noticeably, but you can just tell, different 'flavour' smoke etc. compared to fresher air where i live)
just need to get round to it
i didnt know the cancer studies were in the 50's :shock:
silverclaws
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Yes, end of the world, Turnchapel, a place where everyone knows everyone and there is a most excellent pub that does the real ale festivals, the Bori
The cancer studies were not done so much in the fifties, but data from the period was analysed, either lung cancer was not picked up, or it wasn't a problem, but a quick google reveals more and more studies being done on it, so the truth will come out eventually, which will obviously mean more restrictions and more tax, but at least one of the truths will be out and another one perhaps forgotten about.
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/diesel_lung_cancer.html
The cancer studies were not done so much in the fifties, but data from the period was analysed, either lung cancer was not picked up, or it wasn't a problem, but a quick google reveals more and more studies being done on it, so the truth will come out eventually, which will obviously mean more restrictions and more tax, but at least one of the truths will be out and another one perhaps forgotten about.
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/diesel_lung_cancer.html
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