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kona EFS frame
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That's very interesting, looks just like the frame in the 1994 catalogue, but with a 93 decal. The EFS was clearly first used in 1992, but it wasn't in the 93 catalogue (produced summer 92?) Perhaps this example is a 93 frame made sometime after the catalogue was produced and thus one of the earliest ones.
Looks fairly bomb-proof anyway, I expect it weighs a ton!
http://www.konaretro.com/articles/catalogues/1994/9.jpg
Looks fairly bomb-proof anyway, I expect it weighs a ton!
http://www.konaretro.com/articles/catalogues/1994/9.jpg
Hi,
You can put a Kona decal on a Verlicchi frame, just like I did put an Iron Horse one on mine.
If he did, it doesn't look like he did it yesterady as the decal has cracked.
What does look Kona typical to me is the gusset on the swing, right under the pivot.
I consider my Verlicchi not really heavy. Recall weight of the frame is somewhere in the 2800gr league according to catalogue. My rigid Panasonic e-stay frame is heavier...
You can put a Kona decal on a Verlicchi frame, just like I did put an Iron Horse one on mine.
If he did, it doesn't look like he did it yesterady as the decal has cracked.
What does look Kona typical to me is the gusset on the swing, right under the pivot.
I consider my Verlicchi not really heavy. Recall weight of the frame is somewhere in the 2800gr league according to catalogue. My rigid Panasonic e-stay frame is heavier...
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that is nice . I would not mind one of those .
it would look good with a Marzo xc700 in purple .
it would look good with a Marzo xc700 in purple .
I have this message from the seller "Hi, wow, that makes me feel so old. I bought it from a local Kona dealer who got the bike as a demo before the release so must have been one of the early ones! Thanks for finding the catalogue article, I was trying to get more detail on it. Cheers, John."Elev12k":23wiu00u said:
Call me trusting if you will, but it feels genuine to me.
I didn't say it isn't genuine ...I mentioned there is a possibility the seller simply put Kona decals on it, what also could explain the 'wrong' era decals
Btw is a Verlicchi where Kona put their decal on it more 'geniune' than the same frame where some other person put a Kona decal on? That is also a question.
Btw is a Verlicchi where Kona put their decal on it more 'geniune' than the same frame where some other person put a Kona decal on? That is also a question.
I agree, but Kona were quite open about it being a Verlicchi frame, just as they were open about TST building the Hei Hei and Tom Teesdale building the Hot. I don't think there's anything wrong about a big company contracting a small one to build a particular model - in fact quite the contrary, I wish it would happen more often.Elev12k":3r53c4wd said:
And as for the 'wrong' era, the 94 Kona catalogue says that the bike first started winning downhill races in 1992, so surely it is perfectly possible that the seller obtained his in 93 and the 93 decal on it is quite genuine, even though this model didn't appear in the 93 catalogue. If there were minor variations in the frame specification, as you implied earlier, the fact that Kona put the decal on would at least suggest that this frame is to their specification.
Quite a nice and rare bike to own, wouldn't you say?
Anthony":8q1usfo6 said:
Anthony,
I also don't think there is much wrong with that. I meant to say that if Kona puts his decal on a Verlicchi does that make a more geniune bike than if I would do that? Same frame, same decal, same bike.
Now it is Hei Hei, Hot and EFS: The Hei Hei and the Hot look like Konas, probably ride like Konas, while the EFS is imho a Verlicchi in the 1st place. The Kona input was pretty much limited to putting their decal on.
I have the feeling that the catalogues provides limited and incomplete information. It was a Verlicchi with Iron Horse decals that conquered the title in 1992. I have no idea when the 1st Kona EFS came was initiated. Maybe for team members only in 1993 and a run of production bikes for 1994?
The ones used by the team must be custom built.
The production ones have very minor to maybe zero Kona input. The gusset I mentioned before, I only knew of the EFS in catalogue, but recently I were surprised by seeing the same feature on an Iron Horse labelled Verlicchi. I have no explanation for that. I educated myself quite a lot on the Verlicchi frames, but still not everything is clear. Could be a model year thing. Or an Italian thing
...some have, some simply haven't. It is a well known fact that the Verlicchi frame is a very generic frame that in the same configuration was used by many companies. The EFS looks like one of them. There were brands that had a more distinct version made by Verlicchi. Examples are Haro, Carraro and of course Diamond Back. I own one. An Iron Horse. Actually it was born as Sintesi, but I put Iron Horse decals on.
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