Help with frame identity please.

[Cooper]

Hi my brother & I have come across an unbadged frame & fork set that we are going to put back on the road, before we do we would like to know what it is ANY help or pointers would be greatly appriciated.

Its has B146 on the BB,
680 on the forks (inside the headset),
A bracket for a Pennine gas pump on the seat tube,
3 peaks on the top of the seat tube front,
2 peaks on the top of the seat tube rear,

We think it was originally a 5 speed, the forks changed at some point as the numbers are different from frame & it has 2 spacers in the TDC headset.

 

[keithglos]

It looks about 1950, possibly Brampton cast lugs. Pennine CO2 pump boss, and Campagnolo gear hanger could be later.
Keith

 

[oonaff]

i do not know if those pointed seat stays are common, i have seen them on 'hill specials' but im not saying it is one

 

[lewisfoto]

Certainly looks finely made, What looks to be Campagnolo 1010 drops? would make it newer than '50?

 

[lewisfoto]

I assume the threading is English?

 

[keithglos]

The seat stay top eyes are typical early post war, they braze staight on the ears sticking out of the cast seat lug, probably part of the lug set.
Keith

 

[otherself]

They are Ekla 'Continental' Set 2 lugs: http://www.flying-scot.com/frame_dtl_pa ... kla_0.html

Could be an early Flying Scott (1930's) Identical 'spearhead' seatstay caps with same lugs. http://www.flying-scot.com
http://www.flying-scot.com/frame_dtl_pa ... _stay.html

I've seen those seatstay caps on early Mercians as well (1940's), as well as seeing Ekla lugs on very old Mercians.

 

[keithglos]

I should have remembered the Ekla lug set, page 69 of Brown bros 1952 catalogue, priced at 10 shillings and 6 pence a set in 73 x 71.
Better looking than Brampton, and far less finishing for a cast lug set.

Keith

 

[Excel]

some comparisons of Ekla lugs can be found here on Classic Lightweights......
<< http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/co ... nents.html >>

 

[oonaff]

m interesting, without being told you'd think it was filled ,filed planted and brazed on to the seat lug .
if it is a' flying scot' and they seem to pop up on this forum regularly, i guess the clear id numbers should nail it ?