Another V brake Q

Harryburgundy

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Just not getting the power I should...mavic ceramic rims, XTR ceramic pads and Avid Ultimate V's...oh, and XTR levers.
My question is....you know you can change the power/modulation on canti's by adjusting the straddle....is the same sort of true when using either the large or small washer on the shoes.
For Example...using the thicker washer rim side..pushes the arms wider giving more leverage,modulation and power. Does this make sense :?:
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Carl
Actually think my rims are probably just past their best :(
 
Ultimates work well when they've got lots of tension from the adjustment screw/ rod.

But watch it, I have stripped two of those little allen bolts taht dial in the tension for the arm. One was at the Afan meet earlier in teh year and now have little ceramic surface left from a whole ride of rubbing brakes.

These and all other Ultimate parts are available as spares though which is a good thing.



**Just re-read your post and I think I can see the possible problem - ceramic pads. They're great at longevity, but std xtr pads will brake better (IMO). And not wear through your ceramic coated walls of the rims.**



Get some boggo alloy ones and just be prepared to replace more frequently in winter.
 
I try to make sure that the face of the block is as close to parallel with the rim as it hits. If it is not parallel i find that some pressure is sliding the block down the face of the rim rather than pushing on to it.
 
I personally would never use Shimano pads if I could help it (nor cables, chains etc), I think they profiteer on those small parts. People like Fibrax and Clarks have to offer good quality and they do. I think Gus may be right that if the ceramic surface of the rims is worn, the effectiveness of ceramic pads is diminished. Although in theory we're just coming up to the conditions where you need them most.

I don't like the sound of lack of power though, are you sure there isn't flex in the system somewhere? e.g., XTR sounds good, but the power in levers comes from how sound the bushings are - brand new Deore levers are more powerful than worn XTR. I've seen systems where you could apply the brake and then just keep squeezing the lever further. That's when you get no power, it could be flex in the rims, pads out of alignment, stretchy cable, worn bushes in the lever, worn bushes in the brakes, all those sorts of things. All the cash gets spent on sexy brake arms, but I don't believe that even the cheapest brake arms flex, it's the unseen things that flex.

I always use the wider washers, but I don't think it gives you any more leverage. Leverage is maximised by setting the pads very close to the rims. So ensure the wheels are dead true, and the brakes are dead centred and then tighten the cable with the barrel adjuster after putting the wheel on.

If you have the right pads, eliminate any possible flex and set the pads close to the rims, you should have plenty of power.
 
Thanks for all the replies fellas :D

The levers and arms are virtually new....I'll have a play tomorrow. They are not bad, I'm just expecting more :roll:
 
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