2 No unknown frames ID Help

[jaymul]

Hi guys picked up a couple of old frames can anyone shed any light on make model, all help much appreciated.

The green one has frame number on right hand drop out '84333'

The blue one has frame number on the seat pin lug 'No 3893'

more photos at
Frame no 1

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34824628@N ... hotostream

Frame no 2

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34824628@N ... hotostream

Thanks